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Interviews: Ask Malcolm Gladwell a Question 111

Malcolm Gladwell is a speaker, author, and staff writer for The New Yorker since 1996. Gladwell's writing often focuses on research in the social sciences and the unexpected connections or theories made from such research. His books: The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference, Outliers: The Story of Success, and David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants are all New York Times best sellers. Malcolm has agreed to give us some of his time to answer any question you may have. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one per post.
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Interviews: Ask Malcolm Gladwell a Question

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Well, are you?

  • by advancecoder ( 3781651 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:37PM (#48411921)
    Ten-thousand hours (~3.4 years if a regular job) is Gladwell's estimate of temporal mastery. With that being said, the Mozarts like Carlsen or Fischer learn faster and become World Champion. What is the difference between the Mozarts and 3.4 years? Is it there some passionate rage to absorb and decipher patterns that magnetizes them to a particular domain or is it their consistent, well-designed regimen for reaching the upper echelons (like Lalzo Polgar's systemic approach with Judith and Susan)? If it is "pure" passion, then will people who find their true calling and invest appropriate time (e.g. have an OCD mentality) always see the unquestionable results? If it is "pure" regimen, then will following the same systematic approach always see the overarching performance? One thing to keep in mind is are these skills transferable to other domains? Is there a way to tackle a number of domains in the same 10,000 hours with an abstract approach? What about the time to create "new" domains rather than to "solve" problems in a particular domain? Is there some sort of estimate for that? Malcolm could possibly use those clues for his sequel to "Outliers" appropriately called "Pioneers". Any thoughts?
    • by vux984 ( 928602 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @02:40PM (#48412859)

      Ten-thousand hours (~3.4 years if a regular job)

      Where did that come from? 10000/3.4 = 2941 hours per year. Nobody works that. The average full time *American* works less than 1800 year, and has since the 70s. Other countries full time work even less.

      A 2000+ hr work year is a fiction

      If you are working 2000+ hrs for someone else your probably being exploited. Take a good hard look at what you are doing and whether its worth it. Most people do NOT have to work that much. And they probably get paid just as well as you. The average full time employee works 1700 hours. (They get PAID for another 200-300 though for holidays, vacation, sick/personal days etc. So the work year might still add up to around 2000... but you shouldn't actually be working that. (This is just one reason, (along with medical and other benefits) why contractors need to charge more... they're not being paid for those 200-300 hours.)

      If you are working 2000+ hours for yourself, and just making ends meet, (ie its not a choice) then you need to take a hard look at your business.

      If you are working 2000+ hours for yourself, and making out like a bandit, well... good on you... you can afford to life a more balanced life, and you probably should, but the choice is yours.

      http://www.businessinsider.com... [businessinsider.com]

      • by tool462 ( 677306 )

        I'm guessing a minor mental error.
        10000/365/8 = 3.4, but very very few people ever work 8 hours a day, every day of the year with no time off.
        Except for moms. *high five*

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      by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @04:12PM (#48413529)
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      • The basic principle stands though and bizarrely seems to shock quite a few people - if you want to be good at something, do it for quite a long time.
        • Comment removed based on user account deletion
          • Hardly, if you do something full time for nearly 3 years you should be expert at it, you may not be the best in the world, but that obviously is a different proposition, for that you need skilled instruction from someone who is already among the best in the world and likely some sort of "hand up", ie you have very fast reflexes or are unusually strong or have particularly deft hands. Do it right now and surprise yourself, start doing something you are awful at but want to be good at and see how long it take
      • So your question to Mr G could be summarised as: why don't you just fuck off?
  • Genetics (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:39PM (#48411933)

    Today, your continued belief in the Tabula Rasa myth seems increasingly outdated and contradicted by a wide variety of research from many notable evolutionary psychologists and genetics researchers. How do you continue to believe that intelligence and ability is not significantly genetic despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      How do you continue to believe that intelligence and ability is not significantly genetic despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

      Because Political Correctness says so. This statement, while likely true, would be deemed racist and bigoted if you actually started to quantify it by any specific means.

    • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
      That's because it's not. There IS some genetic component, but it's most likely to be indirect (like better glucose metabolism or something like that). Studies on separated twins show that only about 40-60% of IQ variance can be explained by genetics. So Tabula Rasa is still mostly correct.
  • by i kan reed ( 749298 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:41PM (#48411959) Homepage Journal

    The areas you work in focus on very small sample sizes: software billionaires, major cultural shifts, and cases where the most improbable result happened.

    Within these areas, you've developed mental frameworks off of shared elements between each. This runs into a problem, the Texas Sharpshoot fallacy. You pick out some characteristics that are shared by the things you're looking at, and then the only available data to confirm your hypothesis is the data you extracted your predictions from.

    How did you address this when researching your books?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:45PM (#48411985)

    Firstly, I'm a huge fan of your work.

    Secondly, when preparing for your breakout role in 'A Clockwork Orange', did you, at the time, expect it to have such a long-reaching impact?

  • by Scottingham ( 2036128 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:45PM (#48411987)

    I'm curious to know what your take is on a basic income for all US citizens versus our current 'conditional' welfare system. What do you think short term and long term outcome would be? Would the increased tax burden on the upper classes result in a total collapse rendering a basic income useless? My personal opinion is that it is necessary given the increasing rate of job automation coupled with our increasing population size (not to mention aging). Am I delusional? If so, why?

    • My personal opinion is that it is necessary given the increasing rate of job automation coupled with our increasing population size. Am I delusional? If so, why?

      You might not be delusional, but in order to prove that it is necessary, you should at least take into consideration the fact that automation has been increasing for over a century, as well as population, and yet unemployment has remained relatively constant (ie, within a range unrelated to the amount of automation or population growth).

      If your hypothesis doesn't deal with those two facts, then it's in the realm of fantasy, not reality.

      • Good points. However, both the population increase as well as the increase in automation is happening at an exponential rate, not linear as I infer (perhaps incorrectly) your statement to be.

        This would also address more than solely unemployment though. It could lead to the abolishment of the minimum wage, which expecting people to live on is sort of a joke anyhow. It could provide a means for a single mother to actually be around enough to raise her kid(s) which has all sorts of positive societal benefit

        • by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @01:43PM (#48412457) Journal

          However, both the population increase as well as the increase in automation is happening at an exponential rate

          It has been growing exponentially for a long time. There's been no correlation between either population growth and unemployment, or automation and unemployment. If your hypothesis is correct, then you need to explain the lack of correlation.

          It could lead to the abolishment of the minimum wage, which expecting people to live on is sort of a joke anyhow.

          Almost no one lives on minimum wage. Look up the demographics of a typical minimum wage earner some time, almost all of them live in a nice middle-class income household.

          Honestly though, I think it'll remain firmly in fantasy land

          Don't. Base your worldview on facts. That is the only way we'll ever get the cheap energy, because people are looking at scientific facts and how we can use them.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by ranton ( 36917 )

        ... you should at least take into consideration the fact that automation has been increasing for over a century, as well as population, and yet unemployment has remained relatively constant

        I am not necessarily worried about unemployment; I am worried about the increasing gap between the elite and everyone else. Early automation created the need for the middle class, as the wealthy needed trained people to run the machines. But in the past 40 years automation has become far more capable and sophisticated. It requires less people to run modern machines, but they need to be far more skilled than the last generation. This has lead to the shrinking middle class, the rising 1%, and also the rising

        • Well that's some interesting speculation for sure. Not much else to say to that. You've been doing a lot of thinkin'
        • ... you should at least take into consideration the fact that automation has been increasing for over a century, as well as population, and yet unemployment has remained relatively constant

          I am not necessarily worried about unemployment; I am worried about the increasing gap between the elite and everyone else. Early automation created the need for the middle class, as the wealthy needed trained people to run the machines. But in the past 40 years automation has become far more capable and sophisticated. It requires less people to run modern machines, but they need to be far more skilled than the last generation. This has lead to the shrinking middle class, the rising 1%, and also the rising upper middle class.

          Accelerated, more sophisticated automation didn't by itself led to a shrinking of the middle class. It is not even the primary factor. Globalization did that. A middle class that was not educationally prepare to move out of what I call "manual/rudimentary" manufacturing, and a national difficulty to operate efficiently, those two played a significant role.

          Remember, middle class used to denote blue collar jobs.

          But those jobs started to go bye bye quite some time ago. It even preceded 2000's globalizat

    • 1) We have always been faced with "increasing automation" from the moment we first used animals to till soil rather than doing it ourselves. The increased automation frees us to do more interesting work.

      2) Basic income? How defines how much is "basic"? The problem here, is that it is a slippery slope of incremental definitions. Poor used to mean selling your pee to earn money ("piss poor"), now it means ObamaPhones, $100 Nike Shoes and a flat screen TV.

      3) What makes you think that anyone is entitled to some

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        Oi, I realize this will woosh right over your partisan-baked brain, but I'll bite:

        "What makes you think that anyone is entitled to someone else's money?"
        How did they get that money in the first place? Through a societal system they are able to take advantage of. Never completely on their own like libertarians are want to believe. Our current monetary system is based on debt leveraged on debt based on a promise. It's purely imaginary, fiat, whatever. The real deal is the cost of energy, resource extrac

        • How did they get that money in the first place?

          Lets assume that it is legal. To coin a phrase "What difference does it make!!!!!!"

          Money is just a convenient shorthand.

          Yup, but you still haven't made any case that it is any business of government to take money from one person to give to another, under threat of a gun. The thing people like yourself are missing, is that government at its best is mutual consent, and at worst is tyranny. You're making the argument tyrants make, and not liberty.

          A good place to start is being able to eat real food and have a stable place to live.

          A good place to start is to realize that we already have a large number of programs that provide serv

      • by ranton ( 36917 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @07:23PM (#48414129)

        1) A vibrant middle class is an aberration of history. I don't think we can look to history and find meaningful examples of what exponentially increasing technology will do to our current social structures.

        2) Our society determines what basic income is. Just like we determine our laws.

        3) Living in a society that respects property rights has its costs. Almost the only difference between the relatively peaceful western world and places like the unrest in the middle east is that the vast majority of our population has a lot of opportunities. You take those away and we will have the same unrest here.

        I tend to agree with Thomas Paine, who believed that all citizens have a natural inheritance created by the introduction of the system of landed property. So in return for society recognizing property rights those property holders owe society some of its proceeds. He explicitly stated this should not be considered charity.

        4) He never said he thought there would only be positive results. He did say he thinks it would be a good idea, but plenty of good ideas still have consequences. And he was openly asking for other opinions while merely offering his own; there is no need to jump down his throat.

        5) No one is saying people would be paid not to work. All people would just be told "you don't have to work to meet your basic needs." Once that burden is removed, people would still be free to work to better their lives further. Very few people would just sit around all day doing nothing, and those that do really would be the ones we want removed from the workforce anyway.

        • 1) Indeed. And was a result of industrious people who were rewarded for their hard work and ingenuity. The Elite Ruling Class is opposed, and therefore regulates commerce to the point of killing the middle class, in the name of "social order" and "group rights" of course.

          2) "Our Society" doesn't do any such thing. The ruling class does so only to gain economic control from those it rules. But then again, we are "too stupid" to know what is in our best interests, so we must all those smart MIT professor type

          • by ranton ( 36917 )

            1) It was also the result of the government funding a massive push to educate the workforce in the post-secondary education system. If you look at 1910, which was an era where big business was running things, 2.7% of the population was college educated. By 1990 it was almost double that.

            The notion that industrious people created the middle class is laughable. It was clearly a partnership between the public sector which educated the workforce and the private sector that took this new workforce and created a

    • You are so bloody ignorant your mental instability is really besides the point! What an effing idiot!!!
    • Am I delusional?

      Maybe we should ask Hazel Bennetton.

  • Your books are full of bullshit masquerading as research, yet they sell like pancakes. What is the secret?
  • by An dochasac ( 591582 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:48PM (#48412015)
    There is a positive feedback between human confirmation bias and reliance on information sources which increasingly give us what we want (e.g. Google/Facebook "filter bubbles", Amazon "if you like this... you'll like that." Do you expect this to create more social balkanization and extremism or other social effects? Is there anything we can do to stop or slow this process?
    • Is there anything we can do to stop or slow this process?

      I can tell you my hypothesis on this topic (which may not be worth anything, but hey, that's what you paid for).

      Before the internet, people were still in rather small silos, they got tv news maybe (which isn't worth much), or newspapers if they were better informed; but they mostly had their viewpoints matching the people they lived around (kind of like people favor different sports teams still today). So in a way, nothing has changed, not because people were placed in silos, but because opportunities for

      • So there are two competing pressures, on to put us into news silos, and the other the pressure of the wide open internet to liberate information. My guess is the second pressure will effectively counteract the first pressure (for the same reason that AOL couldn't keep people in their little content-world, even if they did try to redefine the URL).

        As much as I would like to agree with your somewhat outdated view of what "being online" is, balkanization is being aided by FB. The more people interact only via social media(FB), the more of a "crafted" worldview people have, merely by thier likes/friends on FB. They get a mirrored view of things, and unless, like you said, they leave the walled garden and venture out into the "wide open internet", their world views get even more stagnant.

        FB is the new AOL.

        • FB is the new AOL.

          That's a good analogy.....FB would definitely like to keep people in their little garden, but as much as they try, they are unable to.

          Even if Facebook manages to reach their goal though, and keep people there.....still on Facebook you are likely to run into more opinions on a regular basis than you used to, unless you actively censor people who disagree with you. But if you actively censor people who disagree with you, then there's no hope for you no matter how the world is shaped.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    ...and now I'm an expert at cherry-picked anecdotes, post-hoc sophistry and false dichotomies. -Peter Lynn

  • How (Score:4, Interesting)

    by werepants ( 1912634 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @12:55PM (#48412077)
    You have made a career out of writing books that popularize scientific findings - it seems like this is a task fraught with potential dangers, in terms of representing something that your readers misinterpret and misapply, or perhaps taking a published study and drawing an unwarranted conclusion yourself that attracts the ire of the original researchers. Certainly, much science journalism lately can be criticized for sensationalizing scientific results in the pursuit of better headlines, sometimes at the cost of being deliberately misleading. Can you expound a bit on the issues you've run into as a purveyor of scientific results, and explain how you balance the need for a faithful presentation of the source material with the desire to find something relatable and compelling enough to write a book about?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I've recently self-published a book dealing with society, technology, and the overused concept of Innovation. I had a great deal of fun writing it, and would like to contribute to a magazine or newspaper on a regular basis. I'm curious though, with so much "stuff" out there now - what's the best way to get a foot in the door and start writing content to broader audiences?

    BTW Saw you speak in Seattle Town Hall - loved your talk

  • ...comes from being able to distract the guard. Any party crasher would know that...

  • by korbulon ( 2792438 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @01:02PM (#48412129)
    Do you think you'd still be interested in science if you had gone to graduate school?
  • by werepants ( 1912634 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @01:03PM (#48412143)
    I imagine that the different circles you run in might have dramatically different responses to the religious emphasis in your recent work. What kind of reactions (wanted and unwanted) have you gotten from your recent move towards Christianity?
  • Your book "Talent is Overrated" is misquoted and misinterpreted in many places, but seems to say that anyone can become a world-class expert with enough effort and time.

    What should someone do to become a world-renowned expert?

    Can you give us a plan or list of steps to take - something that's not garbled by news media reporting?

    Can you clarify a summary of the books conclusions, so that others can embark on that journey?

  • If You Had a Machine That Could Build Anything?
  • We've got dramatic and sudden changes forecasted in the use of automation in various industries. The trucking industry alone could change in a few short years with the advent of self-driving vehicles, leaving millions out of work. What kind of social impact do you foresee with these developments - do you think this kind of automation will be a fundamentally different kind of technological advance than our society has previously dealt with?
  • In David and Goliath, you show that the highest science students at U of Maryland are more likely to become scientists than the lowest science students at Harvard, despite the fact that the Harvard students were, before college, much more successful. The idea being that the best place to develop is at a level where you are successful. This is the opposite of the conventional wisdom for soccer. In that world, the consensus for developing players is that they should get on the best team they possibly can, e
  • by SuperBanana ( 662181 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @01:34PM (#48412401)

    http://shameproject.com/report... [shameproject.com]

    Why did you, after college, attend the National Journalism Center, a corporate-funded program created to counter the mediaâ(TM)s alleged âoeanti-business biasâ?

    Why, as someone who is half-Jamaican, have you repeatedly associated yourself (and apparently continue to do so) with the white supremacist organization EPPC, which fights activists for economic justice?

    Why did you write for American Spectator, which churned out anti-Clinton conspiracy theories?

    Why did you recycle tobacco industry propaganda and quote lobbyists for Washington Post articles you "wrote"? Why did Phillip Morris consider you, according to their internal documents, to be a "friend" who could be counted on for pro-tobacco-industry stories?

    Why did you clearly promote drugs for treating ADHD in kids, in which you heavily quoted researchers who were paid heavily by the pharma industry?

    Why did you cite a pharma-industry cited study and defend the industry when it was attacked for high drug costs?

    Why did you blame the victims in the Enron collapse, defending executives who committed gross fraud?

    • This is what I came here to write. Please moderate up.

      • And to Slashdot, just count each request for modding up and each +1 as a "1 question per post".
        No need repeating the questions that SuperBanana has already made.
        We could, but then what's the point of moderation, right?

    • Plus, Gladwell took that contract to spew out propaganda against WikiLeaks and Assange!
    • I would like to thank you for pointing all this out. Usually I'm up to speed on people like this... Even just for what he wrote about Enron, wow, what a douche.
    • '..Why did you..."

      because he's an idiot. And one of the most overrated, over-hyped idiots of the last 20+ years. It's hard to think of anyone who comes to mind even comparable.

      Gladwell has a gift to take something that *easily* can be explained in a few pages, and turn it into an entire book, full of the same repetitive idea, chapter after chapter.

      How he has become so popular is beyond me. The only thing I can guess is that he deludes people into thinking they are smarter for reading his stuff. I read a

  • Congratulations on your 4:54 in the Fifth Avenue mile.

    http://www.runnersworld.com/ce... [runnersworld.com]

    How fast do you think you could run a mile if you spent 10,000 hours training for it?

  • Where is your favorite spot to look at people.
  • This is the royal jackhole who took a contract to put out propaganda about WikiLeaks and Julian Assange? Screw him to hell and beyond.
  • Do frequent /.?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Why did you steal Art Garfunkel's hair?

  • by maple_shaft ( 1046302 ) on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @04:45PM (#48413757)
    This is probably one of the most unfriendly forums to yourself that you could possibly engage for feedback. Do you feel that you must defend yourself to the most critical audience? Or did you pull a Malcolm Gladwell and jump into a topic that you know nothing about it and then when you realize your in over your head, decide to try and twist the evidence to fit your ill conceived hypothesis?
  • Mr. Gladwell, thanks a bunch for taking questions from us! I read you book 'Blink' and it was definitely value-added, esp. the story about war games...and how they gamed the war games.

    My question: How do you, personally, evaluate research science? How do you differentiate the good research from hype? What is your process for evaluating scientific research?

    I ask because everyone in media is quoting "research" now..."pop science" is a thing in our culture...I'm interested in how *you* a person known for writi

  • >are all New York Times best sellers

    Can we have information on what books are best sellers without the result being interfered with by a crappy newspaper?

  • According to the world bank, 215 million people live outside of the country of their birth. If counted separately, this "Nomadistan" would be the 4th largest nation in the world, ahead of Pakistan, Brazil, Japan, Mexico and all of the countries of Europe, Africa and South America. The people of Nomadistan don't have the same rights as natives of their adopted home. They face xenophobia, political scapegoating, economic hardship, workplace discrimination, racial profiling and harassement and very few have th
  • Jobs face little friction as they migrate towards the places where the cost of labor is lowest. Workers, however, face considerable friction when attempting to follow those jobs. What affect will this imbalance have on the average worker? Will the affect be greater than or less than the affect of robots?
  • In the Tipping Point you advance the argument that it was better policing against minor infractions that reduced crime.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T... [wikipedia.org]
    "Economist Steven Levitt and Malcolm Gladwell have a running dispute about whether the fall in New York City's crime rate can be attributed to the actions of the police department and "Fixing Broken Windows" (as claimed in The Tipping Point). In Freakonomics, Levitt attributes the decrease in crime to two primary factors: 1) a drastic increase in the number

  • by GODISNOWHERE ( 2741453 ) on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @12:48AM (#48415415)

    Boyce Rensberger [harvard.edu], your erstwhile editor at the Washington Post, said this a year ago in the comments section of this article [mit.edu]:

    Gladwell is the same Gladwell as when I was his editor at The Washington Post. At first, I fell for his approach and brought him over to the science pod from the Post's business staff. Then I realized that he cherry picks research findings to support just-so stories. Every time I sent him back to do more reporting on the rest of the story, he moaned and fumed.

    When I read his proposal for "The Tipping Point," I found it to be warmed over epidemiology. It was based on a concept and a perception so old it was already an ancient saying about straw and a camel's back. But gussied up in Malcolm's writing style, it struck the epidemiologically naive as brilliant. Brilliant enough to win an advance of more than $1 million.

    What's your response?

  • when he saw you wrote about the "Igon Value" problem? Wasn't he a math professor? http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/I... [rationalwiki.org]
  • I would be very interested how gladwell as a Canadian American views the cultural differences across the Atlantic, and between Canada and the United States.
  • Why do you substitute jargon for logical analysis. Do you think bullshit sells more books?

    • It does to people who view the world through a specific jargon. I would prefer to read good cosmology with math to help my understanding, but that market is pretty small compared to simplistic "analogies" that feed and nurture the the public discourse. For an example, run down the virtual particle discussions until you finally get to the one (and it was deep when I found it) that explains that the classical virtual particles as used to explain Hawking radiation are not the virtual particles of the foundatio
  • Elaborate on what ways have technological advances altered or impacted your craft. In terms of research I imagine that you must have begun as a Journalist at the end of the card catalogue era. Many research studies and books are available via internet yet you continue to frequent libraries, perhaps due to the types of items and information you find within the library. Further, first person interviews are a basis to your books. Explain the significance of the face-to-face or one-on-one and the technologica
  • As a statistician, I am seriously annoyed with the usual Left-Right dichotomy we see in most press articles. While I like the Political Compass [politicalcompass.org] I am a bit nervous of their clustering algorithm, and the questions they use to feed the analytics. Even more interesting is Johathan Haidt who has achieved some TEDTalk [ted.com] fame describing a five-dimensional feature space (though he does try to reduce to two clusters - liberals and conservatives). So I pose a two part question, (1) do you think the public discourse is

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