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Interviews: Ask SMBC's Creator Zach Weiner a Question 90

Zach Weiner is the author and illustrator of a number of webcomics, most notably Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal (SMBC). He's been a guest contributor to xkcd and founded the sketch comedy group SMBC Theater. His project Augie and the Green Knight, was the most funded children's book on Kickstarter, and his newest project The Gentleman's Single-Use Monocle offers readers emergency reading protection with a bit of class. Zach has agreed to step away from the comics for a bit and answer any questions you might have. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one per post.
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Interviews: Ask SMBC's Creator Zach Weiner a Question

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  • Sacred cows? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohnNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Monday March 16, 2015 @12:34PM (#49268575) Journal
    Have there been any times you feared you went too far with your humor? If not, when have you received the most mail asserting that you did?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by sideslash ( 1865434 )
      He is actually really careful about that. There are regular barbecues of sacred cows related to Judaism and Christianity, but never so much as a hint of poking fun at Islam or Mohammed.
      • He is actually really careful about that. There are regular barbecues of sacred cows related to Judaism and Christianity, but never so much as a hint of poking fun at Islam or Mohammed.

        It could be caution, but it could also be the fact that poking fun at empowered groups in your own culture carries a very different context than poking fun at foreign cultures (or disempowered groups in your own culture).

        • It could be caution, but it could also be the fact that poking fun at empowered groups in your own culture carries a very different context than poking fun at foreign cultures (or disempowered groups in your own culture).

          So you're saying Islam is a "foreign culture" in the USA. How many Muslims do we have to have living here as citizens before it becomes one of the (many) American subcultures?

          Also, your use of the term "disempowered" is hilarious. Just because Islamists in the USA can't get away with chopping off people's heads here (like they do elsewhere in the world) doesn't make them "disempowered" relative to Christianity and Judaism. Always with Islam it's the (pardon the expression) camel's nose in the tent. Isl

          • It could be caution, but it could also be the fact that poking fun at empowered groups in your own culture carries a very different context than poking fun at foreign cultures (or disempowered groups in your own culture).

            So you're saying Islam is a "foreign culture" in the USA. How many Muslims do we have to have living here as citizens before it becomes one of the (many) American subcultures?

            Also, your use of the term "disempowered" is hilarious. Just because Islamists in the USA can't get away with chopping off people's heads here (like they do elsewhere in the world) doesn't make them "disempowered" relative to Christianity and Judaism. Always with Islam it's the (pardon the expression) camel's nose in the tent. Islamists have no sense of humor, no tolerance for criticism, and no qualms about taking their half from the middle and screwing atheists, homosexuals, apostates, and in general, persons of other religions (inculding variants of Islam slightly different from theirs).

            As you pointed out the "disempowered" covers Muslims in the US. And my evidence for them being disempowered (marginalized would be a better term) is the ease with which people will hear Muslim and translate it to Islamist, and then they'll start sprouting off half a dozen negative stereotypes that would be verboten if applied to most other groups.

            • As you pointed out the "disempowered" covers Muslims in the US. And my evidence for them being disempowered (marginalized would be a better term) is the ease with which people will hear Muslim and translate it to Islamist, and then they'll start sprouting off half a dozen negative stereotypes that would be verboten if applied to most other groups.

              You're really going off on a tangent here. Getting back on subject, perhaps we can agree that the most likely reason for SMBC's curious silence toward Islam is not because Zach can't find anything silly in their beliefs, but rather because conservative Muslims around the world, aka Islamists of different degrees, are likely to commit acts of violence in response to their religion being made fun of.

              Also, just for the record, equating "Muslim" and "Islamist" is often a reasonably accurate approximation, p

              • As you pointed out the "disempowered" covers Muslims in the US. And my evidence for them being disempowered (marginalized would be a better term) is the ease with which people will hear Muslim and translate it to Islamist, and then they'll start sprouting off half a dozen negative stereotypes that would be verboten if applied to most other groups.

                You're really going off on a tangent here. Getting back on subject, perhaps we can agree that the most likely reason for SMBC's curious silence toward Islam is not because Zach can't find anything silly in their beliefs, but rather because conservative Muslims around the world, aka Islamists of different degrees, are likely to commit acts of violence in response to their religion being made fun of.

                Possibly, but I don't recall him making fun of Hindu's, African Tribal religions, or Chinese culture either. He might be silent out of caution, or he might be ignoring them for the same reasons he ignores those other groups.

                Also, just for the record, equating "Muslim" and "Islamist" is often a reasonably accurate approximation, particularly outside the USA but frequently here as well. There are useful litmus tests to identify an Islamist, such as: "Should it be illegal to burn a Koran?" "Should people be allowed to apostatize from Islam?" and so forth. If you only ask about affinity for Osama bin Laden you will definitely miss a lot of the scary religious nuts. Their ultimate goal is not peaceful coexistence in a pluralistic society, but rather enforcement of norms of sharia law and subjugation of non-Islamic people. Whether they are likely to be successful in their goal is irrelevant as to their classification as Islamists in that respect.

                Since around 50% of Americans support a flag burning amendment [wikipedia.org] does that make them all scary nationalist nuts? There's not even a god who's supposed to care about that one. As for Muslims some of what you're picking up on is just cultural differences, a Christian who talks about killing

                • If I encounter any apostles, I'll be sure to warn them.
                • Since around 50% of Americans support a flag burning amendment [wikipedia.org] does that make them all scary nationalist nuts? There's not even a god who's supposed to care about that one.

                  This may come as a shock to you, but this is the USA, and patriotism is OK here. If some people get a little carried away, that's not as big a deal as people who want to subject non-Muslims to sharia law. If you really don't see the difference between the two, then it appears that you will never be in danger of someone demanding you relinquish your hippie credentials.

                  (Side note: I agree with the SCOTUS that flag burning and other forms of expression that don't actually cause harm to others should remain

          • Also, your use of the term "disempowered" is hilarious. Just because Islamists in the USA can't get away with chopping off people's heads here (like they do elsewhere in the world) doesn't make them "disempowered" relative to Christianity and Judaism.

            Yes, it does.

            There just aren't that many Islamists with violent intent in the USA. There are so few, in fact, that the FBI has to groom them so they have enough. In fact, there were more Jewish terrorist attacks in the US than Muslim ones between 1980 and 2005 [loonwatch.com]. And, of course, Americans who claim to be Christians get away with more actual deaths in the USA and elsewhere (through the pretence of the military, the criminal justice system, etc) than Islamists ever could.

            Zach Weiner, to his credit, knows the fi

        • by Lehk228 ( 705449 )
          found the SJW
          • found the SJW

            I wasn't trying to take a side but I was pointing out that there are reasons he might not be criticizing Muslims besides fear.

            If you don't think that the power and social standing of groups doesn't matter in humour then take the jokes a black comedian tells about blacks or a Jewish comedian about Jews and try telling them as a white non-Jew. It's not translatable because the context is completely different.

        • That sort of thinking is very European - it shouldn't bother an American like Weiner, I hope.

          That's why England is.. the truth is I don't even want to describe it. Not only do Americans not know the train wreak that is England, we're much happier for not knowing.

        • I think there are also other explanations.

          I grew up in a vaguely Christian society, or at least one with a rich Christian history. I went to a church school up until secondary school because it was close. It's England, and C of E schools are quite common and, frankly, not nearly what you'd expect religious schools to be like. This is all an artefact of history which is why there's this mild pervasiveness of the C of E even if society as a whole is not religious. Anyway, needless to say, Christianity and var

  • How do you respond to the criticism that by widely distributing your single use monocles to teenagers and adults, you'll be making highbrow socializing safer and therefore increase it to immoral levels?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Weiner

    • Seriously, though. Weinersmith! How did it come to pass that yourwife opt to took this incredibly amazing name, mid-academic-career, and you didn't with your awesome career that could only benefit from having the name Weinersmith?

    • Where does one apprentice to become a master Weinersmith?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16, 2015 @12:38PM (#49268607)

    Huge fan of SMBC. I don't know how you come up with so many unique, thought-provoking ideas. Most comics that do that are on a 2-3 per week schedule.

    I backed your monocle; while I do love the hilarity of a monocle in a condom-wrapper, I just want to help you prove your wife wrong.

  • Ren & Stimpy (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SupahVee ( 146778 ) <superv@NOSPAm.mischievousgeeks.net> on Monday March 16, 2015 @12:41PM (#49268625) Journal

    I see a fair bit of other influences in your comics, with Ren & Stimpy references seeming to show up here and there. What other comic have played a role in your work, and is there some bad experience in early childhood that clearly left you so scarred from Ren & Stimpy?

  • How many panels are you averaging now? Is there a graph over time?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Has your motivation changed since you started SMBC?

  • Intellectual Sources (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Gestahl ( 64158 ) <gestahl.gmail@com> on Monday March 16, 2015 @12:48PM (#49268679)

    With respect to your "philosophical thought experiment" comics, how many of your comics are based in topics/ideas you learned before the end of your formal education, how many are based on things you have encountered in your "continuing education" (whether based on life experience, or just what you are currently reading about), and how many are "novel" intuition pumps?

  • I'm not talking about your humorous Sarah Silverman satire video [youtube.com] but the actual people who misappropriate a joke for their own. I've seen it on Facebook where someone reads a joke on Reddit or XKCD or SMBC and just rehashes it as their own idea in a post knowing that no one else out there could possibly be wasting their time on something like SMBC. Do you see this as frequently as I do? In all honesty does this bother you or merely flatter you? Is it just a natural unavoidable quality of memes or do you think it's more sinister?
  • As a person who enjoys a little philosophy (and can manage to pull out the humorous side of it), what do you think of Daniel Dennett?

  • What possessed a Japanese Bank [wikipedia.org] to write web comic?

    Also, what webcomic would you like to guest write?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16, 2015 @12:52PM (#49268723)

    How does your wife feel being portrayed in the comic?

  • I love Zach, met him at a comic-con in Seattle a couple years ago, he signed his SMBC-Theater DVD for us and posed for "photo bomb" pictures. Awesome dude. My question for Zach is, have you ever considered/pondered/done any longer-form comics, with a cohesive narrative? You have tons of goofy ideas, some quite entertaining, I'd love to see what you could do with a story-driven comic powered by your goofy ideas. Also: your wife is wrong, single-use monocles are an awesome idea, even if just for gag-gift pu
  • Like prescription options for the monocle? If this is just clear glass, it's useless. If it's just a magnifying glass, I'll head to the dollar store.
    • Like prescription options for the monocle? If this is just clear glass, it's useless. If it's just a magnifying glass, I'll head to the dollar store.

      Novelty items -- like the well-worn glasses/nose/mustache -- generally don't offer an option that includes a prescription or other medically relevant requirements.

      Or, if you prefer: Whoosh. [that was the sound of the joke going over your head]

      • by sh00z ( 206503 )
        I beg to differ. The whoosh was it going under my feet. To be a joke a joke, it's only funny if it actually works. Otherwise, it's just lemmings volunteering to get pranked on Kickatarter.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      The single use unlubricated monocle is for the express purpose of class enhancement. A prescription lens would not be viable for the disposable price point.

  • by Flavianoep ( 1404029 ) on Monday March 16, 2015 @01:13PM (#49268845)
    Expanding my question, what did inspired you to write your webcomic?
  • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Monday March 16, 2015 @01:18PM (#49268881) Journal

    Do you have any extra wisdom to share with us that's you know, like... woah?

    (For those less familiar with SMBC, this is one of my all time favourites http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id... [smbc-comics.com])

  • by soccerisgod ( 585710 ) on Monday March 16, 2015 @01:23PM (#49268929)
    Are you completely nuts? How and why did it happen? Also, do you like squirrels?
  • Boy, that'd be embarassing...

  • I'm a professor at a university in upstate New York. Would you be interested in giving a talk here? How could I arrange that? What kinds of talks do you have that would be of interest to engineering students and faculty? (Or would Kelly's work be more interesting to such an audience?)

  • Are you worried that creationists will try to subvert BAHFest by pointing to it as "Look, even the evolutionists think it's a joke that they can use to explain anything they want"?

  • Transporter Machine (Score:4, Interesting)

    by siphonophore ( 158996 ) on Monday March 16, 2015 @02:57PM (#49269641)

    Would you use a transporter machine as is currently understood to be possible, i.e. destructive scanning of source and remote reconstitution from local matter?

  • How do you intend to celebrate (*ahem* gloat to your wife about) the funding of the Gentleman's (or ladies') single-use monocle since it is very nearly funded on the first day?

    It is clear from its near immediate success that you have identified a large gap in the market that desperately needed filling. :-)
  • Why would you do an AMA on slashdot? Unless you have a strong opinion on bitcoin or want to talk about something controversial Linus said 8 years ago, this doesn't seem like the place to hold things kind of thing.
  • You comics draw on material, ideas, and controversies from a wide array of disciplines; how do you get exposed to all of these ideas? Obsessive wikipedia-reading? Social circle?
  • by gsliepen ( 303583 ) on Monday March 16, 2015 @03:46PM (#49270253)

    Dear Zach,

    I noticed that your comics feature a remarkable balance in gender and skin color of the people you draw. There are also many same-gender couples. How do you do this? Do you decide yourself for each comic, or do you roll some dice? Do you randomize other things this way as well, like glasses and clothes?

    By the way, I noticed that you maintain a list of things you cannot draw. But don't worry, you're way better than that Randall guy who can only draw black&white stick figures.

  • by gman003 ( 1693318 ) on Monday March 16, 2015 @03:53PM (#49270329)

    You often tell jokes that rely on fairly advanced math, science or economics. Have there been any jokes you scrapped because you thought they were *too* advanced for your audience?

  • I bought the poster of your The First Human [smbc-comics.com] strip, and stuck it on the door of my kid's room. Just thought you'd like to know.

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