Interview With "Switcher Girl" Ellen Feiss 351
Ed over in Accounting writes in with a Macinstein interview with Ellen Feiss, an Internet cult figure of a bygone era. Back in 2002, in the heyday of Apple's "Switcher" ads, the 14-year-old Feiss garnered a bit more than 15 minutes of fame. Her Switcher ad became an instant classic — partly because of the widespread belief that she was stoned while filming it, which she says was not the case. In the interview Feiss, who is now a college student with one movie behind her, talks about pseudo Internet fame, drugs, and acting. She says she's still using the same G4 she had when the ad ran. Nostalgia bonus: the ad is embedded at the end of the interview.
Oh dear. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh dear. (Score:5, Funny)
..and you used "oh dear" as if you're retired and like to knit for your grandchildren. Judging people based on a word or two is fun!
Re:Oh dear. (Score:4, Funny)
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Meh. As if.
Stoned? (Score:5, Funny)
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Getting stoned for watching Mac ads is so 5 years ago... these days you get 'chaired'.
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Fair enough, but I've still got a 5 year old G4 sitting in a corner at home. It runs Linux just fine... ;-)
you'll get double chaired!
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let it be (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, you know what they say. You should let bygones be bygones.
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And Jesus we dressed funny. No, that half decade is an era best left bygone alrighty.
KFG
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We tell those people to stay the hell off our lawns. Damn kids these days...
Apple ads (Score:3, Interesting)
And you suddenly know why most people just don't buy Macs. Mac marketing makes impression of being really really desparate.
Maybe they should try some of their iPod concepts for advertising the Mac? This could work better. Show people having fun with a Mac, show Mac being used.
Stop with the "PC sucks" nonsense.
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Maybe the PC isn't synonymous with IBM, Microsoft or Windows anymore?
I think Linux has changed the face of the PC, and what we expect out of them... for the better.
So Apple better say "Windows" or "Office" in their switcher ads, I guess...
Re:Apple ads (Score:4, Insightful)
That'd be kinda ironic given in their ads they specifically stress on the fact MS Office is available on Mac and It Is Good.
They need Office on the Mac and they know that.
As for Windows.. they'd piss off someone's lawyers to directly flame the Windows brand. So they use a "PC" as a generic name, but of course talking about Windows (not Linux or BSD or anything).
Which is *again* ironic, and doubly so, as what they sell right now is exactly a PC. No more, no less. The only single difference being the DRM chip they use to lock OSX, and the EFI (versus the classic BIOS). But new PC-s are sold with EFI too, so..
I remember when they were also flaming the Pentium 2/3/4 chips, talking about how terribly slow they are compared to G4 and G5. Which was again a lie, when they switched to Intels they got away from the situation talking how hugely different Core is, a totally, totally different thing, completely different from the Pentiums we flamed just few months ago!
Of course, those better informed, know Core 1 is in fact enhanced Pentium 3 with more SIMD commands and extra power-saving features.
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There is no DRM chip. I have a Mac less than 6 months old. I've spent some time looking for the chip, and I used Amit Singh's software to try to find it. It's only on some models, and is inactive. It's basically only present if it happened to be on the motherboard they use. There's not even an OS X driver for it.
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Heck, I can even think of a couple things I've done in OpenOffice that can't be done with Microsoft Office. Take superscript, for example. Yes, MS Office supports a superscript flag, but OpenOffice lets me apply varying degrees of superscript. And that's functionality I've needed.
I've also used OpenOffice to repair Microsoft Word documents that crashed Microsoft's product.
I tutor peop
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1) Text to columns (WTF? This isn't rocket science)
2) Multi-User documents (like when I have to update a shared group task list)
3) Speed (It takes roughly 5-10x as long to open a document with screenshots as Word)
-WS
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I popped the floppy into the one computer in the lab which I had installed OOo on, opened the document, and re-saved it as a Word document. The student lost some of their document, but much of it was still recoverable.
Yeah, PCs, please stop sucking! (Score:4, Funny)
Yeah, I agree, PCs should really stop sucking. However, I wonder why you're telling that to us. Most of us aren't working on Windows.
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So you're not working on a PC? What are you working on, Amiga?
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I meant "working on Windows" as in "being in a position where we can fix Windows' suckiness, i.e. working on Windows' code," not "sitting in front of a Windows box all day long."
Re:Apple ads (Score:5, Insightful)
I'll be suprised if the new UK ads make an impact. We don't react very well to negative advertising over here and we tend to be more diserning consumers. Most people who are using Windows are using XP. XP, for all of its faults is stable, verstaile and familiar; on modern hardware with oodles of ram its fast and it does work with all of those odd USB gadgets that people buy (my missle launcher doesn't work under OS X).
Its also cheap. You can buy a decent computer from Dell with LCD monitor etc. for under £300.
I'm a devout Mac user and even I don't relate to adverts. Yes, I have made photo albums, they did look fantastic and I could do it with the software that was provided with the machine but it also cost me £30. Yes, I can watch DVDs out of the box, but if I want to watch anything in fullscreen in Quicktime I need to buy a £20 pro update, or import them into iTunes (not iMovie) and watch them in front row.
As for the 'no drivers' being a good thing, I'm not sure what they are smoking. There are laser printers that require you to compile open source drivers to get to work, mobile phones that refuse to connect via bluetooth and perhaps my biggest irritation is cameras whose RAW file format isn't supported. Now these arn't necessarily Apples problem: Fujitsu encrypt their RAW, Minolta only support Macs on their more expensive printers and Motorola are the worst phone manufacturer, but they ALL work on Windows with the drivers in the box.
Telling Brits that they are stupid for buying a PC isn't going to work. Buying a PC is a choice. There is more software (including viruses), they are cheaper and they are as stable. The reason I bought a Mac? UNIX under the hood, a great interface (apart from finder), great hardware and in my experience less goes wrong.
Re:Apple ads (Score:5, Insightful)
While us geeks are sitting around slashdot arguing about Vista's lateness, OSX's niceness and Linux's empire toppling innocence PC World, HP, Dell and Apple are raking in the big bucks and conditioning the public's opinions on what constitutes the latest greatest in computing via advertising.
The simple fact is that until PC World adertises their latest Red Hat or Suse bundle during the Superbowl GNU/Linux will not be joe-public's-desktop-ready no matter what we collectively shout about it here.
Obviously, i sincerely hope to be eventually proven wrong, but i suspect my karma's about to plummet rollercoaster style, in which case: Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Microsoft XP: Favoured by terrorists.
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You are welcome!
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if I want to watch anything in fullscreen in Quicktime I need to buy a £20 pro update, or import them into iTunes (not iMovie) and watch them in front row.
Not true... Open up AppleScript Editor, type...
...and save as application. Drag into user scripts folder.
The next time you want fullscreen just use the script.
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Whilst your at it... do you have a short folder action that will convert avi to mov and then import to iTunes Movies and delete the original? It doesn't have to re-encode, just repackage.
Thanks in advance
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Honestly, unless you're really into PC games, there aren't many areas where a Mac isn't >= to a Windows machine. Granted, one of those areas is that there is no Exchange client on Mac that is as good as Outlook 2003 or Outlook 2007 on Windo
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People are aware that computers are these cool, amazing machines. As is written in the Book of Jobs: "bicycles for the mind The problem is that (Windows) PCs do suck. It's like having to work with a manic depressive coworker who drains your energy by making you deal with his weird issues all the time.
You can't sell a computer that you want people to love without reminding them that (Windows) PCs suck, because over time people begin to accept that suckiness is the way computers are supposed to be. You can't change the world without first upsetting the unconscious accomodations people have made to the status quo. The world if full of unreasonable things people get accustomed to; it's only when they are reminded they have a choice that they remember how ridiculous things are.
The reason people "don't buy" Macs is the same reason people "don't buy" BMW cars. There are cheaper alternatives that fill their needs. Yes, the Mac Mini is pretty cheap, but beige boxes are even cheaper. If they could buy the mini at $299, more people would buy them. But cheapness is a game Apple can't win at, and doesn't want to play. BMW could sell more cars if it had an offering to set against the Ford Focus, but that would turn them from BMW into a smaller, less competitive Ford. BMW sells luxury cars, Apple sells luxury computers. And Apple has the luxury of not needing to advertise much if at all to its existing customers; most of them are not going to switch to a PC unless they are forced to be circumstances that no advertising could alter. What Apple needs is to find the people who are disatisfied with their old PC jaloppy and can be interested in trading up.
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They don't want others to presume they're obnoxious twats who derive self-esteem from a brand identity?
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> people begin to accept that suckiness is
> the way computers are supposed to be.
However, using something that sucks is a sign of expertise. Culturally, we associate "ugly and ineffective tool" with "brilliant and experienced user". We actively select for this in tech circles. I get a little flak from people because I don't use Linux on my desktop, but I still run several Linux boxes - I just run them e
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Would you hire a roofing contractor who uses a rock to drive nails? Would you hire a roofing contractor and then insist that he use a rock instead of a nail gun? After all rocks are "ugly and ineffective" and only "brilliant and experienced" roofers use them.
You can argue all you want that it's not the same thing, but it is. People accept "ugly and ine
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To be fair, the majority of people who own PCs don't buy Windows either.
Maybe they should try some of their iPod concepts for advertising the Mac? This could work better. Show people having fun with a Mac, show Mac being used.
To be fair, I want to vomit and curse violently when I see the Zune commercials with the happy couples using their squirt feature while the dancing hipsters on the
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Fair enough - and when Mac users stop saying things like that, I'll stop saying they're pretentious.
Though, I do actually have a macbook pro, so I guess that includes me too.
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Fair enough - and when Mac users stop saying things like that, I'll stop saying they're pretentious.
Though, I do actually have a macbook pro, so I guess that includes me too.
We all know that owning an object automatically causes you to have certain personality traits. And it makes you cool and gives you a whole set of new friends, membership in a secret society, etc.
Wait..was I being sarcastic?
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I'm not saying all mac owners are pretentious, just the vocal abrasive minority... which doesn't help the stereotype any.
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That said, I am a Mac user, and I do buy them partially for their looks. To be fair, I also spend extra on the nice
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The truth is, they're roughly equivalent. My shiny new MacBook Pro has crashed as many times in the two months that I've had it as any Windows machine has in a two-month period. Some things are easier on the Mac, but some other things are easier on Windows. On both platforms I've had things "just work", and on both I've had things "just fail for inscrutable reasons".
I have a vague preference for the Mac, but it's just that -- a vague personal preference. It mostly comes from the Unix underpinnings of OSX, which means that an old Unix hack like me can get in under the hood and actually fix some of the things that go wonky. I have found nothing that clearly sets either platform above the other, at least for the things I need a computer for.
Heresy, I know.
Go PowerBook G4! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Go PowerBook G4! (Score:5, Insightful)
I think the main reason people "have to" upgrade is because Windows gets bloated registries. Even without viruses, things crawl on a poorly maintained machine with a lot of crappy apps like AOL installed.
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But then, the playstation I bought 4 years ago doesn't do that either.
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The iBook (once I have a replacement power adapter) will probably go to my
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Re:Go PowerBook G4! (Score:5, Interesting)
I gave my brothers a demo, with all of these running simultaneously..
* iTunes playing music
* VLC playing a video
* DVD playing (a ripped folder)
* iPhoto open with 5,000 photos
* VPN/VNC to several work systems
* Parallels running Windows XP
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* A second Parallels window installing Windows 98
I hit Expose to show all windows-- there was no stutter.
The CPU load was only at 75%
/ love the MagSafe adapter more than I expected.. it just works
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Dinosaur is in da place ! (Score:3, Interesting)
Sure, I upgraded processor a couple of time (Slot1 interface and Slotckets are a wonder ! I just long until similar board with AM2 & DDR2 sockets on them and HTX interface to the main board appear...) maxed out the memory, but it still mostly the same old computers with derelict 3DFX Voodoo AGP video cards...
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Wow. You're surprised to get 3.5 years out of your Mac? I got 6 (I consider anything less then 5 years out of a computer to be less then my money's worth) out of my PC and only replaced it because it broke.
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Re:Go MMX166 (Score:4, Funny)
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So what did you do, count the rows of beads on your abacus to see who was more modern, grandpa?
Apple's Demographic? (Score:5, Insightful)
...What do you think it was about your ads that made you a stand out?
Ellen: I don't know? Because people thought I was stoned, because there aren't that many young girls in computer commercials.
Ellen seems to have figured out where fanboys come from.
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You can't be ahead of the curve if you're stuck in a loop.
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Not from Slashdot, at any rate.... BTW, she says No Comment, wrt her availability. Any PC users on Slashdot like to switch?
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Sex sells, and nerdy boys don't need much because they only know girls from .jpg
get with the times, you old fart (.mpg/.avi)
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Before you lock kv9 up as a sex offender, there's nothing wrong with thinking or saying a 14 year old is cute/hot/sexy or whatever. It's a valid opinion.
Is there nothing better to read? (Score:5, Insightful)
I read part of the interview and have concluded that it's just as interesting as most blogs by strangers I'll never meet. Funny thing is, most people are immediately appreciative of how much most blogs suck, yet an interview with Ellen Feiss is somehow above that.
Please, someone tell me, what the hell am I missing here? Really. I don't get it.
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Yes, but at least they aren't hypocritical, because what Feiss did wasn't blog related.
Please, someone tell me, what the hell am I missing here?
A 14 year old Mac loving stoner chick, to some geeks.
Re:Is there nothing better to read? (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.faq-mac.com/mt/archives/img/escaparate
Don't fall in! The lips aren't that unattractive, either. Ok, yeah, the rest may not be so hot (I've not seen any of her 'film acumen') but that much, at least, is.
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I have to wonder if the "don't fall in" eyes have anything to do with pupil dilation becaus
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I think you're missing the fact that people tend to attribute characteristics -- attractive people are good and conversely good people are attractive -- based on unrelated factors [wikipedia.org]. Seeing a chick with a computer can be as compelling for a nerd as seeing an old man in a Ferarri might be for a model, where seeing the same people in different circumstances would likely result in indifference.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but people don't always realize everything they're
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Is submitter, like, 12? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Ellen's take on the iPhone... (Score:5, Funny)
Macenstein: What do you think of the newly announced Apple iPhone?
Ellen: Sounds expensive.
Macenstein: Ok, we've taken up far too much of your time already.
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I read the story... (Score:5, Funny)
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Welcome to Slashdot.... most 'stories' here just go beep beep beep.... or dupe dupe dupe. And the comments are mostly bummers.. like this one!
A hero among us? (Score:4, Insightful)
The rise to fame of actors and actresses is a bit more straightforward, since their performances are laid bare for all to rewind and review. We needed to see something about a person before we decided that they were worth the worship.
Now, as we move forward, it seems the time and effort required for someone to bask in the aura of fame is drastically reducing. What we find more often in public forums are people, represented by no more than the text of their name or a default avatar, enjoying heroic receptions.
I guess anonymity of others allows us to identify one or two things we like, and then our imagination fills in the rest.
I think this will negatively effect self esteem in the long run.
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L Word? No Comment (Score:3, Insightful)
The ad was like (Score:2)
It was a bit of. . . a bummer.
Then I had to watch it again. It was a really weird commercial.
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Naw, it's because drugs are cool man. Didn't you know, it's ok for people to be stoned while using heavy equipment or taking care of your bank accounts. Nothing wrong with that. It's like, the thing to do to escape and relax.
Besides, what do you care if the guy next to you is doing coke? Just because he gets a bad batch and flips out on your ass doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It's like, you know, just one of those things.
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I'm not advocating using coke, but, before you post about it...try to know a little about what the effects of each drug does. People do no 'flip out' on cocaine if it is a 'bad batch'...there is no such thing. This is not like LSD or another hallucinogin where you can lose touch with reality...and 'flip out'.
But, look, all these chemicals have different effects on your body. Alco
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Yeah, they should.
Just like if I want to go down to the corner pharmacist and buy a massive overdose of morphine, the size that you have no reason to possess other than to kill someone, I should be allowed to do so, then go home and mainline it all so that I go into respiratory arrest.
Freedom used to mean something.
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You've never watched much "Trailer Park Boys", have you? Granted, the cougar on pot was pretty mellow . .
Re:pupils (Score:4, Informative)
When filming a scene, there's all sorts of lights pointed at the set, and you can see there's a light pointed right at her face. Natural causes of pupil dilation simply don't dilate THAT much when there's a light of any noticeable intensity on the eye. To have eyes like that without a chemical influence, she'd have to be in dim light AND having a physiological response, or complete darkness, to get that wide.
That said, the chemical influence causing it isn't necessarily a hallucinogen (or a stimulant), it could be the same stuff the optometrist uses, to simulate the effect of drugs. The actors in drug movies don't really take drugs in front of the camera, most of the time anyway.
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Atropine is available in eye-drops, it blocks muscarinic receptors and causes pupillary dilation. It has been used for hundreds of years by women because they thought dilated pupils make them look "sexy". In fact atropine is derived from the "belladonna" plant, bella donna meaning "beautiful woman" in latin.
There are other antimuscarinincs that can be used by hollywood to acheive this effect, since atropine can dilate pupils for weeks at a time which is not a good thing if you plan to be outside once in a while...
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Re:Foreign film (Score:5, Funny)
Wow am I square. It took me until this post (I haven't RTFA yet) to realize that the summary wasn't referring to a Biblical stoning. Yikes.
"Clear eyes? How would that protect this poor girl from a thrown... ooooh!"
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