If you haven't heard it enough yet, you and your fellow devs'/critics'/gamers' example of not letting these regrettably small-minded folk drive you away from your passions is truly inspiring. Now the question:
How has what you experienced / currently experience affected your dev and planning processes? Does it enter into your spitballing/design sketch/engineering phases at all? Are you making certain decisions to emphasize your position(s) or expose theirs?
Maybe for the first picosecond of its existence. It may truly have wanted to shed light on unusually close ties between critic and dev. But my God man, how many hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate have you seen?
Kinda funny really, given the movement absolutely started with misogyny: a boyfriend writes a clearly deranged hatchet-job on his former girlfriend, and, because women, amirite?, a legion of very, very, stupid men decide to take revenge on the former girlfriend and make her life a living hell, many admitting at the time that they wanted to drive her to suicide, knowing she suffered from depression.
Then they pretended it was about EIGJ, but nobody believed them, because every post saying this said the fol
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday July 14, 2015 @03:06PM (#50110843)
Not that I really want to take the GG side, but how is it about misogyny (hatred of ALL women) when the accusations were leveled at exactly ONE woman?
And while there were other very, very specific women targeted by people using the hashtag (note here that I am being very careful here not to blame an entire group for the actions of a few), if there were more women, where are they? The media is in the tank for women and stories of harassment (rightly or wrongly - as we learned from the UVA case, and the case against Bill Cosby, but a woman with a true story to tell will no doubt be taken seriously regardless), so if the problem is so widespread and entrenched in the industry, how come there aren't more women coming forward to tell their stories? There must surely be women that are encouraged to come forward and tell their stories if things are just so terrible and need to be changed.
Why is it we hear about the same women, over and over again? Who's pushing that narrative?
Like I said, I really, really, really don't want to take the GG side (since I find that both sides are off their rockers), but I find the side that's against more deplorable for turning the word "misogyny" into something that means virtually nothing anymore.
OK, this is a new one to me - I was aware Wu is rumored to be TS (not that there's anything wrong with that), but you're saying "LW1" is too?
And no, you think "LW1" is those things because you read a hit-job on her by an obviously deranged ex-boyfriend, who pushed all the misogynist prejudices he could think of to ensure an Internet hate mob of misogynists would attack her, from simple harassment to death threats and more.
How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfrien
No. The post you clearly didn't read was very obviously presented as a warning against a sociopathic manipulator. Had the genders been reversed, the media would have unilaterally taken the side of the person being gaslit, cheated on and lied to for months to cover up multiple affairs and professional misconduct.
How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfriends, pen an online screed designed to create a hate mob? How many?
Not many, because of attitudes and people like you, who instead of listening to them, and maybe looking into the situation, automatically accuses the male side of Misogyny and Hate, just for denouncing abuse performed by an ex-girlfriend.
Ever thought you might be the one preventing the voice of abused men to actually talk about their experience by labelling them as vile, sub-humans ? Because nothing makes a victim feel better than that amiright ?
It certainly can be misogyny even when directed at only a few women. It depends on what happened, which I haven't paid attention to, so I'm theorizing here. If she was insulted for being female, or for things that generally matter primarily for females, that's probably misogyny. Mocking a woman for ugliness (which may or may not have happened here) is usually misogyny, since it implies that women are required to be good-looking, or that they matter only for their looks.
THANK YOU For Being an Inspiration! (Score:0, Flamebait)
How has what you experienced / currently experience affected your dev and planning processes? Does it enter into your spitballing/design sketch/engineering phases at all? Are you making certain decisions to emphasize your position(s) or expose theirs?
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Gamergate had nothing to do with misogyny, and for encouraging these liars, you are a failure as a human being.
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[emphasis mine]
Maybe for the first picosecond of its existence. It may truly have wanted to shed light on unusually close ties between critic and dev. But my God man, how many hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate have you seen?
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Kinda funny really, given the movement absolutely started with misogyny: a boyfriend writes a clearly deranged hatchet-job on his former girlfriend, and, because women, amirite?, a legion of very, very, stupid men decide to take revenge on the former girlfriend and make her life a living hell, many admitting at the time that they wanted to drive her to suicide, knowing she suffered from depression.
Then they pretended it was about EIGJ, but nobody believed them, because every post saying this said the fol
Re:THANK YOU For Being an Inspiration! (Score:3, Insightful)
Not that I really want to take the GG side, but how is it about misogyny (hatred of ALL women) when the accusations were leveled at exactly ONE woman?
And while there were other very, very specific women targeted by people using the hashtag (note here that I am being very careful here not to blame an entire group for the actions of a few), if there were more women, where are they? The media is in the tank for women and stories of harassment (rightly or wrongly - as we learned from the UVA case, and the case against Bill Cosby, but a woman with a true story to tell will no doubt be taken seriously regardless), so if the problem is so widespread and entrenched in the industry, how come there aren't more women coming forward to tell their stories? There must surely be women that are encouraged to come forward and tell their stories if things are just so terrible and need to be changed.
Why is it we hear about the same women, over and over again? Who's pushing that narrative?
Like I said, I really, really, really don't want to take the GG side (since I find that both sides are off their rockers), but I find the side that's against more deplorable for turning the word "misogyny" into something that means virtually nothing anymore.
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When the hate for the woman is because she's a woman. Women, amirite. Did you miss that? That, my friend, is misogyny.
Re:THANK YOU For Being an Inspiration! (Score:5, Insightful)
Or because she was a hateful, sociopathic, gaslighting asshole before being a woman?
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OK, this is a new one to me - I was aware Wu is rumored to be TS (not that there's anything wrong with that), but you're saying "LW1" is too?
And no, you think "LW1" is those things because you read a hit-job on her by an obviously deranged ex-boyfriend, who pushed all the misogynist prejudices he could think of to ensure an Internet hate mob of misogynists would attack her, from simple harassment to death threats and more.
How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfrien
Re: THANK YOU For Being an Inspiration! (Score:0)
No. The post you clearly didn't read was very obviously presented as a warning against a sociopathic manipulator. Had the genders been reversed, the media would have unilaterally taken the side of the person being gaslit, cheated on and lied to for months to cover up multiple affairs and professional misconduct.
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How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfriends, pen an online screed designed to create a hate mob? How many?
Not many, because of attitudes and people like you, who instead of listening to them, and maybe looking into the situation, automatically accuses the male side of Misogyny and Hate, just for denouncing abuse performed by an ex-girlfriend.
Ever thought you might be the one preventing the voice of abused men to actually talk about their experience by labelling them as vile, sub-humans ? Because nothing makes a victim feel better than that amiright ?
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It certainly can be misogyny even when directed at only a few women. It depends on what happened, which I haven't paid attention to, so I'm theorizing here. If she was insulted for being female, or for things that generally matter primarily for females, that's probably misogyny. Mocking a woman for ugliness (which may or may not have happened here) is usually misogyny, since it implies that women are required to be good-looking, or that they matter only for their looks.
Similarly, if only one black fam
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Shhhhhhh you'll accidentally poke MORE holes in their leaky narrative.