If you haven't heard it enough yet, you and your fellow devs'/critics'/gamers' example of not letting these regrettably small-minded folk drive you away from your passions is truly inspiring. Now the question:
How has what you experienced / currently experience affected your dev and planning processes? Does it enter into your spitballing/design sketch/engineering phases at all? Are you making certain decisions to emphasize your position(s) or expose theirs?
Let me see if I have this right: You're positing she has a volunteer (or perhaps compensated) army of Twitter users with orders to publicly harass her online. And she wants Patreon money to hire a person or people to combat this army? Seems a hghly-inefficient way to make money...
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday July 14, 2015 @02:38PM (#50110453)
Yea, they're called Goons. They really want you to think that certain people are a hate movement.
She's been caught several times posting harassment to herself. For example, on her steam greenlight page she forgot to log out of her developer account and posted a message attacking herself.
Amusing how it's "several times" but that one incident is the only one quoted. Not exactly the best way to convince otherwise disinterested parties of her dishonestly.
Amusing how it's "several times" but that one incident is the only one quoted. Not exactly the best way to convince otherwise disinterested parties of her dishonestly.
You'd think once would be enough, but anyways...
Brianna "Stayed Home" Wu got national media attention after being "forced" to "flee home" by GamerGate threats. Yet it turns out that was complete bullshit, because:
1) They were already scheduled to be at a con for the weekend they were forced to flee and go into hiding.
2) They tweeted they would be at the con and at what booth after the "threat". Really afraid for their life there, aren't they?
3) Subsequent interviews after they had supposedly gone into hidin
For example, on her steam greenlight page she forgot to log out of her developer account and posted a message attacking herself.
I went to google this up, and it's obvious from the thread in question that it was satirical. "8chan, Gamergate and Kotaku in Action, knock yourselves out" - I mean, how dense would you have to be to figure it out?
Maybe for the first picosecond of its existence. It may truly have wanted to shed light on unusually close ties between critic and dev. But my God man, how many hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate have you seen?
Nope, still isn't a hate group. Heck, people believe a transwoman is the head of gamergate at this point. But you know, certain individuals have been seen offering 3ds codes for people to post hate messages in the tag. Wouldn't know anything about that, would you?
Kinda funny really, given the movement absolutely started with misogyny: a boyfriend writes a clearly deranged hatchet-job on his former girlfriend, and, because women, amirite?, a legion of very, very, stupid men decide to take revenge on the former girlfriend and make her life a living hell, many admitting at the time that they wanted to drive her to suicide, knowing she suffered from depression.
Then they pretended it was about EIGJ, but nobody believed them, because every post saying this said the fol
Not that I really want to take the GG side, but how is it about misogyny (hatred of ALL women) when the accusations were leveled at exactly ONE woman?
And while there were other very, very specific women targeted by people using the hashtag (note here that I am being very careful here not to blame an entire group for the actions of a few), if there were more women, where are they? The media is in the tank for women and stories of harassment (rightly or wrongly - as we learned from the UVA case, and the case
OK, this is a new one to me - I was aware Wu is rumored to be TS (not that there's anything wrong with that), but you're saying "LW1" is too?
And no, you think "LW1" is those things because you read a hit-job on her by an obviously deranged ex-boyfriend, who pushed all the misogynist prejudices he could think of to ensure an Internet hate mob of misogynists would attack her, from simple harassment to death threats and more.
How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfrien
No. The post you clearly didn't read was very obviously presented as a warning against a sociopathic manipulator. Had the genders been reversed, the media would have unilaterally taken the side of the person being gaslit, cheated on and lied to for months to cover up multiple affairs and professional misconduct.
How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfriends, pen an online screed designed to create a hate mob? How many?
Not many, because of attitudes and people like you, who instead of listening to them, and maybe looking into the situation, automatically accuses the male side of Misogyny and Hate, just for denouncing abuse performed by an ex-girlfriend.
Ever thought you might be the one preventing the voice of abused men to actually talk about their experience by labelling them as vile, sub-humans ? Because nothing makes a victim feel better than that amiright ?
It certainly can be misogyny even when directed at only a few women. It depends on what happened, which I haven't paid attention to, so I'm theorizing here. If she was insulted for being female, or for things that generally matter primarily for females, that's probably misogyny. Mocking a woman for ugliness (which may or may not have happened here) is usually misogyny, since it implies that women are required to be good-looking, or that they matter only for their looks.
Kinda funny really, given the movement absolutely started with misogyny: a boyfriend writes a clearly deranged hatchet-job on his former girlfriend, and, because women, amirite?, a legion of very, very, stupid men decide to take revenge on the former girlfriend and make her life a living hell, many admitting at the time that they wanted to drive her to suicide, knowing she suffered from depression.
Wait, are you talking about the guy Zoe Quinn raped? Way to blame the victim, shitlord.
I have to ask you. Given what you say "hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate", how does that meet the definition of misogny? Notice that you didn't say anything about whether or not those tweets of vitriol attacked these women *for being women*, just that they were hate filled, full of vitriol and aimed at these people who happened to be women? Remember, people can hate other people, say nasty things to them and it can have *nothing* whatsoever to do with sex, race or wha
I've seen a lot of activist work performed under the Anonymous banner. I'm also pretty simple-minded, so I consider those all to be the work of the same people, coordinated to orchestrate a consistent, homogenous message and set of beliefs.
Or just maybe all parties (they're innumerable) involved are fragmented, shifting factions of contradictory composition and fleeting ideas.
I miss when Twilight was the internet's adopted clusterfuck. Here's hoping the next one is wingsuit combat.
Yeah, what an inspiration. A rich spoiled kid pisses away daddy's money on nothing, but he's an inspiration because he cut off his dick. Nice one, dipshit. Then again, you might actually be one of those retards that enjoyed his shit game, if so, congratulations on becoming retarded.
What abuse is he speaking out against? Abuse against women at game companies? If it's that, then I can only laugh. I've worked at multiple game companies, with many women and none of them were treated worse than the guys.
Then there's also the fact that he is a man and has absolutely no place to speak on women's rights or how tough his life was in relation to the lives of women. Now if he wants to speak about transgendered rights, by all means he should.
Oh, no! He created an iOS game with terrible graphics and gameplay! Now my years working as an engineer mean nothing compared to that!/sarcasm
No, what Wu is known for is being a professional victim. He doesn't live from the income created by his work, no instead he plays the victim and tells people do donate to his patreon because people called him out on his bullshit and that hurt his fee fees.
He created an iOS game with terrible graphics and gameplay!
It's a game for girls. As you don't appear to be a girl, what the fuck would you know?
You are so insecure, you find it a threat that some games are not written with you in mind.
And you're a bigot about transexuals too. What a pathetic excuse for a human being you are. If you are older than 12, you should be ashamed at your immaturity.
THANK YOU For Being an Inspiration! (Score:0, Flamebait)
How has what you experienced / currently experience affected your dev and planning processes? Does it enter into your spitballing/design sketch/engineering phases at all? Are you making certain decisions to emphasize your position(s) or expose theirs?
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Yea, they're called Goons. They really want you to think that certain people are a hate movement.
She's been caught several times posting harassment to herself. For example, on her steam greenlight page she forgot to log out of her developer account and posted a message attacking herself.
She's probably here, seeding this right now.
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Amusing how it's "several times" but that one incident is the only one quoted. Not exactly the best way to convince otherwise disinterested parties of her dishonestly.
You'd think once would be enough, but anyways...
Brianna "Stayed Home" Wu got national media attention after being "forced" to "flee home" by GamerGate threats. Yet it turns out that was complete bullshit, because:
1) They were already scheduled to be at a con for the weekend they were forced to flee and go into hiding.
2) They tweeted they would be at the con and at what booth after the "threat". Really afraid for their life there, aren't they?
3) Subsequent interviews after they had supposedly gone into hidin
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For example, on her steam greenlight page she forgot to log out of her developer account and posted a message attacking herself.
I went to google this up, and it's obvious from the thread in question that it was satirical. "8chan, Gamergate and Kotaku in Action, knock yourselves out" - I mean, how dense would you have to be to figure it out?
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She makes $3,000/month from Patreon. Not a bad gig.
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Gamergate had nothing to do with misogyny, and for encouraging these liars, you are a failure as a human being.
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Maybe for the first picosecond of its existence. It may truly have wanted to shed light on unusually close ties between critic and dev. But my God man, how many hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate have you seen?
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Nope, still isn't a hate group. Heck, people believe a transwoman is the head of gamergate at this point. But you know, certain individuals have been seen offering 3ds codes for people to post hate messages in the tag. Wouldn't know anything about that, would you?
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Kinda funny really, given the movement absolutely started with misogyny: a boyfriend writes a clearly deranged hatchet-job on his former girlfriend, and, because women, amirite?, a legion of very, very, stupid men decide to take revenge on the former girlfriend and make her life a living hell, many admitting at the time that they wanted to drive her to suicide, knowing she suffered from depression.
Then they pretended it was about EIGJ, but nobody believed them, because every post saying this said the fol
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Not that I really want to take the GG side, but how is it about misogyny (hatred of ALL women) when the accusations were leveled at exactly ONE woman?
And while there were other very, very specific women targeted by people using the hashtag (note here that I am being very careful here not to blame an entire group for the actions of a few), if there were more women, where are they? The media is in the tank for women and stories of harassment (rightly or wrongly - as we learned from the UVA case, and the case
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When the hate for the woman is because she's a woman. Women, amirite. Did you miss that? That, my friend, is misogyny.
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Or because she was a hateful, sociopathic, gaslighting asshole before being a woman?
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OK, this is a new one to me - I was aware Wu is rumored to be TS (not that there's anything wrong with that), but you're saying "LW1" is too?
And no, you think "LW1" is those things because you read a hit-job on her by an obviously deranged ex-boyfriend, who pushed all the misogynist prejudices he could think of to ensure an Internet hate mob of misogynists would attack her, from simple harassment to death threats and more.
How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfrien
Re: THANK YOU For Being an Inspiration! (Score:0)
No. The post you clearly didn't read was very obviously presented as a warning against a sociopathic manipulator. Had the genders been reversed, the media would have unilaterally taken the side of the person being gaslit, cheated on and lied to for months to cover up multiple affairs and professional misconduct.
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How many ex-boyfriends do you know of, even ones with actually awful ex-girlfriends, pen an online screed designed to create a hate mob? How many?
Not many, because of attitudes and people like you, who instead of listening to them, and maybe looking into the situation, automatically accuses the male side of Misogyny and Hate, just for denouncing abuse performed by an ex-girlfriend.
Ever thought you might be the one preventing the voice of abused men to actually talk about their experience by labelling them as vile, sub-humans ? Because nothing makes a victim feel better than that amiright ?
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It certainly can be misogyny even when directed at only a few women. It depends on what happened, which I haven't paid attention to, so I'm theorizing here. If she was insulted for being female, or for things that generally matter primarily for females, that's probably misogyny. Mocking a woman for ugliness (which may or may not have happened here) is usually misogyny, since it implies that women are required to be good-looking, or that they matter only for their looks.
Similarly, if only one black fam
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Shhhhhhh you'll accidentally poke MORE holes in their leaky narrative.
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Kinda funny really, given the movement absolutely started with misogyny: a boyfriend writes a clearly deranged hatchet-job on his former girlfriend, and, because women, amirite?, a legion of very, very, stupid men decide to take revenge on the former girlfriend and make her life a living hell, many admitting at the time that they wanted to drive her to suicide, knowing she suffered from depression.
Wait, are you talking about the guy Zoe Quinn raped? Way to blame the victim, shitlord.
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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But my God man, how many hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate have you seen?
In medical speak, the real question is if this symptom is specific. If it isn't, then those tweets may not matter all that much.
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I have to ask you. Given what you say "hate-filled tweets of vitriol aimed at these women, tagged with #GamerGate", how does that meet the definition of misogny? Notice that you didn't say anything about whether or not those tweets of vitriol attacked these women *for being women*, just that they were hate filled, full of vitriol and aimed at these people who happened to be women?
Remember, people can hate other people, say nasty things to them and it can have *nothing* whatsoever to do with sex, race or wha
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Or just maybe all parties (they're innumerable) involved are fragmented, shifting factions of contradictory composition and fleeting ideas.
I miss when Twilight was the internet's adopted clusterfuck. Here's hoping the next one is wingsuit combat.
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What are you, 12 years old?
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Remember, folks, if someone speaks out against any abuse, they're nothing more than attention-seekers playing the victim card.
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What abuse is he speaking out against? Abuse against women at game companies? If it's that, then I can only laugh. I've worked at multiple game companies, with many women and none of them were treated worse than the guys.
Then there's also the fact that he is a man and has absolutely no place to speak on women's rights or how tough his life was in relation to the lives of women. Now if he wants to speak about transgendered rights, by all means he should.
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It is when their co-workers have admitted she harassed gamergaters for weeks to get them to react, deliberately
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Contribute to society? She's created a game for girls. What have you done? Besides bully people online.
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He created an iOS game with terrible graphics and gameplay!
It's a game for girls. As you don't appear to be a girl, what the fuck would you know?
You are so insecure, you find it a threat that some games are not written with you in mind.
And you're a bigot about transexuals too. What a pathetic excuse for a human being you are. If you are older than 12, you should be ashamed at your immaturity.