Or when are you gonna make my laptop's WiFi card work? It's fucking annoying to have to tether my phone via USB to get internet on my new laptop (Lenovo Edge Flex 15, in case you're wondering)
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Thursday June 25, 2015 @02:27PM (#49987667)
You wouldn't get a reply like that if you 1) asked nicely, 2) made an actual effort to help, and 3) stopped whining that someone isn't giving you free support.
The Linux development team does an outstanding job compared to many other development teams, but their resources are limited and they can't support every single piece of hardware in existence. Where there's a demand and a willingness to pitch in, I think Linus and his team go above and beyond to get things working.
OSS isn't a Garden of Eden for users where you get everything you want for free just because you ask. I'm sorry if that stings but it's the truth. They don't work for you, and they don't work for Lenovo, so where exactly do you get off complaining that Linux devs don't jump when you say jump?
I'm not asking for anything, so I can't make any effort to help with anything.
And I'm not whining, I'm saying that the usual attitude for a lot of OSS projects usually goes something like this: OSS: Here's a gift! Users: Thank you, but it doesn't work on my computer. OSS: Fuck you, the code is there, fix it yourself! Users: We're not programmers and your gift is useless to us.
I understand that resources are limited and that there's a lot of hardware out there. How
They don't all buy the same hardware. However, if you bought a consumer-grade laptop, its components are likely those that came in on the cargo ship this week that tested OK for a Windows machine. You can get laptops that will definitely run Linux, but they may cost more, because they can't use just any old components.
Most of my computers are older, but I've had better success with Linux (new versions) over Windows finding drivers. I'm assuming that Windows had dropped the drivers, but I've had hardware (soundcards, NICs, etc.) that just work in Linux but Windows didn't see them.
I just asked myself... what would John DeLorean do?
-- Raoul Duke
Laptops (Score:5, Interesting)
Why do you think its still near-impossible to buy a laptop with Linux preinstalled?
Re: Laptops (Score:-1)
Or when are you gonna make my laptop's WiFi card work? It's fucking annoying to have to tether my phone via USB to get internet on my new laptop (Lenovo Edge Flex 15, in case you're wondering)
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> Or when are you gonna make my laptop's WiFi card work?
"You gave me free coffee, why don't you give me free sugar too?"
Ungrateful entitled end users. Pffft.
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A broken gift is a useless gift.
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It's not "broken" just because it doesn't support your pet machine.
I got news for you: it takes WORK to make drivers, plus the requisite knowledge and skill. Nobody owes you a goddamn thing.
Why don't you pester Lenovo to write a Linux driver for you? They already have your money so they kind of owe you.
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This is the usual "fuck you" reply that makes OSS a joy to use.
Re: Laptops (Score:1)
You wouldn't get a reply like that if you 1) asked nicely, 2) made an actual effort to help, and 3) stopped whining that someone isn't giving you free support.
The Linux development team does an outstanding job compared to many other development teams, but their resources are limited and they can't support every single piece of hardware in existence. Where there's a demand and a willingness to pitch in, I think Linus and his team go above and beyond to get things working.
OSS isn't a Garden of Eden for users where you get everything you want for free just because you ask. I'm sorry if that stings but it's the truth. They don't work for you, and they don't work for Lenovo, so where exactly do you get off complaining that Linux devs don't jump when you say jump?
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All I said is "A broken gift is a useless gift."
I'm not asking for anything, so I can't make any effort to help with anything.
And I'm not whining, I'm saying that the usual attitude for a lot of OSS projects usually goes something like this:
OSS: Here's a gift!
Users: Thank you, but it doesn't work on my computer.
OSS: Fuck you, the code is there, fix it yourself!
Users: We're not programmers and your gift is useless to us.
I understand that resources are limited and that there's a lot of hardware out there. How
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They don't all buy the same hardware. However, if you bought a consumer-grade laptop, its components are likely those that came in on the cargo ship this week that tested OK for a Windows machine. You can get laptops that will definitely run Linux, but they may cost more, because they can't use just any old components.
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