The product you are pointing at is just a wire, not a converter. Can the Raspberry Pi output analogue VGA from its HDMI port? This isn't the conclusion I drew from the answers above, though I stand willing to be corrected.
That cable is totally non standard, for crazy devices that output analog over their HDMI port. Most do not. HDMI is digital, VGA is analog, you can't convert from one to the other with a simple cable. It would not work for the raspberry pi (notice how the page says NOT FROM COMPUTER OR LAPTOP on it)
Wow. That was nicely rude. Have you considered going off and doing things beneficial to society instead, like hand-checking fields for landmines by rolling around in them?
Unless I'm mistaken, the BCM2835 does not ouput analog over HDMI, so that cable will not work. If you're going to need to convert it won't cost $6.99 anymore.
I was presuming they were using a more standard chip, similar to those that typically output DVI and would accept any old DVI-to-VGA converter with no trouble (DVI being the same, except for form factor, in pinouts when running in full digital mode).
Because that cable only works for devices which output analog thru the hdmi connector, and not a typical computer. And judging by the interview answer, it stands 0 chance of working with the Rasberry Pi.
NOTE: this cable don't support signal from VCR, COMPUTER or LAPTOP output.
Many monitors now come with HDMI and just about every HDTV does. Maybe the will make a version with RGB in the future but for now HDMI is the correct choice IMHO. Composite means that any of those old TVs and or monitors will work just fine so you do have a source of old cheap displays to work with not to mention projectors and cheap LCD displays that are used in cars. Over all I think this will rock. IMHO it is in fact a modern Commodore 64 but even better.
Can't it be both: a floor wax *and* a dessert topping?:)
Yes it has the educational market positioning and takes its inspiration from the BBC primarily, but it's very flexible in its capabilities. You might equally well call it the modern day Amiga, as it has good hardware graphics capabilities.
Why aren't there any single-chip computer to DTV solutions instead of this retarded WiDi crap? Seems like that would be an ideal display solution for a myriad of devices. Is there a licensing issue preventing these?
The VideoCore vector core is an astounding source of MIPS, albeit 16bit ones. It's a real pity Broadcom hide it behind high level libraries and don't give the manuals out easily. If pi manages to expose a 16way4K register SIMD device to eager programmers magical things could happen. And there must be distributed apps able to use massive integer performance out there.
It's a hell of a lot of fun writing for it and really instructive in managed caching and data flow to keep the unit fed. Training a new generation of programmers those skills has to be a winner.
Why the skepticism? This has sparked a hell of a lot of interest here among most Slashdot readers. I'm thinking of getting a few for me and my boys, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were hundreds of other readers of this site that feel the same. They will clearly have no trouble hitting their break-even point of 20,000 units. I doubt they'll be able to keep up with initial demand.
Well for one... lets start with the ever changing form factor and abilities.
Started out as about the size of 2 USB sticks. With HDMI on one end, and then USB on the other. Now its to credit card size, 256MB. (Yes, I read their fora about the 512MB PoP memory issue. thanks)
Next, plans to use Ubuntu, which this is perfect and right up Canonicals alley, so you would think! WRONG! WRONG! Canoncial (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/848154 [launchpad.net] ) PULLED the plug on the ARM V6 support and
Next, plans to use Ubuntu, which this is perfect and right up Canonicals alley, so you would think! WRONG! WRONG! Canoncial (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/848154 [launchpad.net] ) PULLED the plug on the ARM V6 support and only supports the OMAP, basically TI is paying them to support the Beagleboards, so anything else ARM based is hosed, and you will have to go to Debian, or others. Thats fine, BUT... your targeting this to be used to do things like oh, play MP3's.. well then you have just run a foul of the DF
It's a HELL of a lot more useful than that piece of shit uber-scam "3D printer makerbot" crap scam. 1300$ for old printer motors in a box? Go on eBay and see what kind of actual milling equipment you can get for 1300$.
My question [slashdot.org] is one of the top ones and it wasn't answered. Which makes me want to know, who decided which questions he'd answer? If it was him I have no room to be upset, of course. And in any case, nerd rage is hilarious.
Your question was answered adequately in the comments. RS232C is not cheap. This really sucks, because it *is* simple from our perspective as users. But, c'est la vie.
I'm a bit sorry that they are thinking of WiFi and Ethernet as an either-or proposition, and I agree that at least in principle it would be nice to have an SATA jack, but wow, that's a pretty substantial change from the current form factor. SATA is really problematic, too: do you do ESATA? Powered or non? Or plain SATA, and assume
If you go to the Raspberry Pi forums you will see the answer in several topics. The answers is a solid yes, eventually. Right now they're just trying to get a final unit and peripherals (power supplies, possible cases) set and shipped. The next planned step are expansion cards/shields (think Arduino). The cards are largely to make up for certain short comings (WiFi, VGA and experimentation boards). The next planned step are variants (POE, possible native ports for RS-232 or VGA, memory upgrades) possib
This is the most interesting interview I've read on Slashdot in a long time. Eben and his team sound like they have great priorities with Raspberry Pi and have project planning that's firmly grounded in reality. I'm very much looking forward to supporting this project in the future.
We’ve said elsewhere that our dream scenario is that someone in China decides to copy our design and start knocking out millions of clones. Remember we’re a not-for-profit organization under English law, and all our trustees have other jobs, so we don’t have the same set of incentives as a regular company.
The Pi itself is already supercheap, but if Chinese cloners start cranking out clones we might be able to buy even cheaper versions on DealExtreme. They'll also probably have features added, as the cloners usually do.
I suspect that learning gpgpu programming and cross-computer applications will be vital for the future. If they are nobbled on the Pi, it may be missing a major trick. I don't understand the rationale behind the Model A. I paid heavily for my BBC Model B which included things I never used but at least I had the memory to run any software - unlike the BBC Model A. Cutting out network functionality for a price point is like cutting off your feet to fit your bicycle. Design the thing with all necessary bells a
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HDMI to VGA (Score:1)
Why not just point people to these?
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-VGA-HD15-Male-Cable/dp/B001OLCHJ6 [amazon.com]
Or convince a few suppliers to donate some at-cost?
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The product you are pointing at is just a wire, not a converter. Can the Raspberry Pi output analogue VGA from its HDMI port? This isn't the conclusion I drew from the answers above, though I stand willing to be corrected.
Re:HDMI to VGA (Score:5, Informative)
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How about I donate you a few corpse brains? It would be an improvement.
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Wow. That was nicely rude. Have you considered going off and doing things beneficial to society instead, like hand-checking fields for landmines by rolling around in them?
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Unless I'm mistaken, the BCM2835 does not ouput analog over HDMI, so that cable will not work. If you're going to need to convert it won't cost $6.99 anymore.
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That makes a difference.
I was presuming they were using a more standard chip, similar to those that typically output DVI and would accept any old DVI-to-VGA converter with no trouble (DVI being the same, except for form factor, in pinouts when running in full digital mode).
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Because that cable only works for devices which output analog thru the hdmi connector, and not a typical computer. And judging by the interview answer, it stands 0 chance of working with the Rasberry Pi.
NOTE: this cable don't support signal from VCR, COMPUTER or LAPTOP output.
Def Leppard (Score:1)
All right
I GOT SOMETHIN' TO SAY!
HDMI is a good choice today. (Score:3)
Many monitors now come with HDMI and just about every HDTV does. Maybe the will make a version with RGB in the future but for now HDMI is the correct choice IMHO.
Composite means that any of those old TVs and or monitors will work just fine so you do have a source of old cheap displays to work with not to mention projectors and cheap LCD displays that are used in cars.
Over all I think this will rock. IMHO it is in fact a modern Commodore 64 but even better.
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It's a modern BBC Micro, not C64.
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"My penis is bigger than yours."
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Naw it is inexpensive. The BBC micro was not. Very good machine mind you and I wanted one at the time but a little pricy compared to the C64
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Can't it be both: a floor wax *and* a dessert topping? :)
Yes it has the educational market positioning and takes its inspiration from the BBC primarily, but it's very flexible in its capabilities. You might equally well call it the modern day Amiga, as it has good hardware graphics capabilities.
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Composite means that any of those old TVs and or monitors will work just fine
No it doesn't. Most old monitors are VGA-only.
DTV ? WTF ? (Score:1)
parallel computing: expose the VC core (Score:4, Interesting)
It's a hell of a lot of fun writing for it and really instructive in managed caching and data flow to keep the unit fed. Training a new generation of programmers those skills has to be a winner.
Ebon who? (Score:-1)
A little hobby board that fills no particular need for no particular body of people. Seriously, what purpose will this serve REALLY?
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I'm one of the unparticular people that will be buying 5 or so.
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So with the other 3 people who will care they will have 10 sales assured!
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Hello of a lot of interest? Is that why this story got a grand 23 posts in 6.3 hours? Yeah. There's a ton of interest here.
I doubt this project will even be a bad memory in 24 months. MS Zune will have sold more units... on Pitcairn island.
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"Why the skepticism?"
Well for one... lets start with the ever changing form factor and abilities.
Started out as about the size of 2 USB sticks. With HDMI on one end, and then USB on the other. Now its to credit card size, 256MB. (Yes, I read their fora about the 512MB PoP memory issue. thanks)
Next, plans to use Ubuntu, which this is perfect and right up Canonicals alley, so you would think! WRONG! WRONG! Canoncial (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/848154 [launchpad.net] ) PULLED the plug on the ARM V6 support and
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BBC Beep (Score:2)
Because we’re nostalgic old farts, we’re also looking at making sure there’s a way for you to boot the board straight into BASIC.
Nice, but it won't be the same without the two tone beep!
Now I am grumpy (Score:2)
My question [slashdot.org] is one of the top ones and it wasn't answered. Which makes me want to know, who decided which questions he'd answer? If it was him I have no room to be upset, of course. And in any case, nerd rage is hilarious.
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Your question was answered adequately in the comments. RS232C is not cheap. This really sucks, because it *is* simple from our perspective as users. But, c'est la vie.
I'm a bit sorry that they are thinking of WiFi and Ethernet as an either-or proposition, and I agree that at least in principle it would be nice to have an SATA jack, but wow, that's a pretty substantial change from the current form factor. SATA is really problematic, too: do you do ESATA? Powered or non? Or plain SATA, and assume
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Uh no, my question was NOT answered, I asked if there would be a more powerful version. English? You, and slashdot, both fail it.
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If you go to the Raspberry Pi forums you will see the answer in several topics. The answers is a solid yes, eventually. Right now they're just trying to get a final unit and peripherals (power supplies, possible cases) set and shipped. The next planned step are expansion cards/shields (think Arduino). The cards are largely to make up for certain short comings (WiFi, VGA and experimentation boards). The next planned step are variants (POE, possible native ports for RS-232 or VGA, memory upgrades) possib
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Great interview! (Score:0)
This is the most interesting interview I've read on Slashdot in a long time. Eben and his team sound like they have great priorities with Raspberry Pi and have project planning that's firmly grounded in reality. I'm very much looking forward to supporting this project in the future.
I particularly liked this bit (Score:1)
We’ve said elsewhere that our dream scenario is that someone in China decides to copy our design and start knocking out millions of clones. Remember we’re a not-for-profit organization under English law, and all our trustees have other jobs, so we don’t have the same set of incentives as a regular company.
The Pi itself is already supercheap, but if Chinese cloners start cranking out clones we might be able to buy even cheaper versions on DealExtreme. They'll also probably have features added, as the cloners usually do.
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I suspect that learning gpgpu programming and cross-computer applications will be vital for the future. If they are nobbled on the Pi, it may be missing a major trick.
I don't understand the rationale behind the Model A. I paid heavily for my BBC Model B which included things I never used but at least I had the memory to run any software - unlike the BBC Model A. Cutting out network functionality for a price point is like cutting off your feet to fit your bicycle. Design the thing with all necessary bells a