Dr Gamma was also one of the fathers of Eclipse and the original lead on the Eclipse Java development tools.
Eclipse has been going on since the early 2000s and six days ago enjoyed the release of Galileo (v3.5). If you've had time to look at recent release, what are your opinions on what Eclipse has become? Has it made any wrong turns? How do you respond to criticisms of "bloat" or "too resource intensive"? Do you see it becoming more than what it is or transforming?
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday June 30, 2009 @03:11PM (#28533155)
Plugins.
Eclipse is an awesome platform for Java. As good as Netbeans. Over the years I've checked it out and I've never felt the desire to stay with it like I do with Netbeans.
But when it comes to developing in other languages, Eclipse just doesn't cut and Netbeans blows the doors off of it.
Some examples:
When I downloaded the previous version of Galileo, from the menu I installed the plugins for C++. I couldn't get the C++ compiling and linking to work.
BPEL?!?! They wanted me to GO BACK a couple of versions of Eclipse. I couldn't even find it on the net.
Anyway, that's not the Eclipse foundations problem. What is their problem is the dependencies installation of the plugins. There's been times where I try to install a plugin and after a while it says I need another, the that dependency says I need a couple of more, and then those dependencies say I need more, and eventually, one dependency fails. Spent a couple of hours over that. What can't Eclipse do all that horseshit for me?
There's other things that I don't like about the UI and the way Eclipse handles projects and their dependencies in Java. I went to Netbeans six months ago and never looked back. I am very happy with Netbeans and I don't see any reason to try to go back to Eclipse.
I know jack shit about anything this guy's talking about, but it seems unlikely it's actually a troll. Could somebody with mod points (and a clue) look at this post, please?
The Directions of the Eclipse Foundation (Score:5, Interesting)
Dr Gamma was also one of the fathers of Eclipse and the original lead on the Eclipse Java development tools.
Eclipse has been going on since the early 2000s and six days ago enjoyed the release of Galileo (v3.5). If you've had time to look at recent release, what are your opinions on what Eclipse has become? Has it made any wrong turns? How do you respond to criticisms of "bloat" or "too resource intensive"? Do you see it becoming more than what it is or transforming?
Re:The Directions of the Eclipse Foundation (Score:5, Insightful)
Plugins.
Eclipse is an awesome platform for Java. As good as Netbeans. Over the years I've checked it out and I've never felt the desire to stay with it like I do with Netbeans.
But when it comes to developing in other languages, Eclipse just doesn't cut and Netbeans blows the doors off of it.
Some examples:
When I downloaded the previous version of Galileo, from the menu I installed the plugins for C++. I couldn't get the C++ compiling and linking to work.
BPEL?!?! They wanted me to GO BACK a couple of versions of Eclipse. I couldn't even find it on the net.
Anyway, that's not the Eclipse foundations problem. What is their problem is the dependencies installation of the plugins. There's been times where I try to install a plugin and after a while it says I need another, the that dependency says I need a couple of more, and then those dependencies say I need more, and eventually, one dependency fails. Spent a couple of hours over that. What can't Eclipse do all that horseshit for me?
There's other things that I don't like about the UI and the way Eclipse handles projects and their dependencies in Java. I went to Netbeans six months ago and never looked back. I am very happy with Netbeans and I don't see any reason to try to go back to Eclipse.
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Re:The Directions of the Eclipse Foundation (Score:5, Funny)
Agreed. Not a troll. Valid criticisms of Eclipse.
Netbeans, on the other hand, is only used by pedophiles, so GP should be ignored on those grounds.