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Ask Candidate Jeremy Hansen About Direct Democracy in Vermont 245

We mentioned yesterday Jeremy Hansen's run for the Vermont Senate. There are a lot of political races currently active in the U.S.; what makes Hansen's interesting (besides his background in computer science) is his pledge to use modern communication technology to provide a taste of direct representation within a representative democracy. He makes a claim not many candidates (and probably even fewer elected officials) ever will: "A representative should be elected who would work strictly as an advisor and make all policy and voting decisions based on the will of his or her constituents, regardless of personal opinion." To that end, Hansen says that if he's elected, he'll employ "an accessible online voting platform to allow discussion and voting on bills" for his constituents. He's agreed to answer questions about how such a system could work, and the nature of democracy in today's ultra-connected world, in which distance and communication delays are much smaller than they were even 20 years ago, never mind 200. So ask Hansen whatever questions you'd like about his plans and philosophy; as always, ask as many questions as you please, but please separate them into separate posts, lest ye be modded down.
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Ask Candidate Jeremy Hansen About Direct Democracy in Vermont

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  • Campaign Confusion (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohn@noSpAM.gmail.com> on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:10PM (#40158689) Journal
    Why would someone who feels that their important issue views are a minority ever vote for you? Clearly an opponent of yours could approach the LBGT community and say "Hey, Hansen's going to ask the population if you guys can get married and you're the minority so don't plan on that ever passing." Or the Atheists, the rich businessmen, the greens, the unions, any very specific religious group, etc (the list goes on). And by the time they're done pointing out how the majority are going to "oppress" the minority for all these interest groups, they've covered a large part of the population. How are you going campaign against something like this? Surely you can't even run on a position in response to any of these questions? Your answer will always be "Whatever the most people want." So how will you combat such a strategy?
  • Civil Rights (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:12PM (#40158709)

    How will you vote if "the will of [your] constituents" is to pass a law making homosexuality or teaching evolution a capital offense? How about implementing a Shirley Jackson-style "lottery?" I.e., should basic civil/human rights be subject to mob rule?

  • Security (Score:5, Interesting)

    by macaran ( 766186 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:14PM (#40158757)
    How will you ensure that only your constituents vote on the topic, and that they vote only once?
  • Constitution? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by MyFirstNameIsPaul ( 1552283 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:15PM (#40158759) Journal

    What will you do when your constituents want you to violate the Constitution?

  • question (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Sparticus789 ( 2625955 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:15PM (#40158761) Journal
    How are you going to ensure that the people using your system are:

    1. Legally allowed to vote in the U.S.

    2. Are who they say they are.

  • Mob Rule (Score:2, Interesting)

    by KermodeBear ( 738243 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:22PM (#40158867) Homepage

    Do you worry that rule by direct election would lead to a "Mob Rule" mentality? Too often the public gets very angry over an issue and makes an emotional decision instead of an informed decision. And then, one must worry about the public basing their decisions on propaganda instead of information.

    This can result in very poor policy - what is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular.

  • by MetalliQaZ ( 539913 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:24PM (#40158883)

    I like the concept of taking direction directly from the will of your constituents, but how do you plan on handling...politics? More specifically, when the party needs votes and deals have been made, how will you stand up to the leadership and refuse to take part? Will that not render you an outsider and remove valuable (perhaps necessary) political clout? It seems like the Washington political machine is incompatible with direct democracy.

  • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:28PM (#40158929) Homepage

    How do you ensure the poll is representative?

    If you let everyone vote on a web page, you're self selecting for technology literate, able to afford an internet connection, and politically engaged enough to care to vote.

    If the same 10% or so vote on every issue, you might end up with skewed results.

    And, as has been pointed out, you'd need to be sure the system was secure and had some validation in it -- otherwise you have no idea if you can trust the votes. Then of course, all of your voters are essentially on record for having voted for/against something.

    It sounds like a good idea in theory, but the devil is always in the details.

  • by PCM2 ( 4486 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @03:31PM (#40158981) Homepage

    California has been running an ongoing experiment with direct democracy for many years, and here IMHO it's mostly been an abysmal failure.

    What happens is that all kinds of budget earmarks get put on the ballot. Well-meaning voters think, "Well gosh, of course we should have funding for after school sports programs!" Next thing you know, there's a law on the books that earmarks X percent of the school budget for after-school sports programs -- whether or not the students have textbooks.

    Or just as often, the bills are put on the ballots by special interests with hidden agendas. Here in San Francisco, a group operating out of San Diego -- some 450 miles away, in Southern California -- seemed close to getting a bill on the local city ballot that would have banned the practice of male circumcision in the City. You can debate whether circumcision is "torture" all you want (for both my father and I it was a medical necessity, due to a congenital defect). But the bill's supporters' real agenda became painfully apparent when they advertised the bill using a comic book featuring "Foreskin Man," a blonde, blue-eyed superhero who saved blonde, blue-eyed boys from forced circumcision by leering, demonic Jews with glowing eyes, pointed teeth, and Hassidic dress.

    Of course, the classic example of direct democracy gone wrong in California is Proposition 13, which put strict limits on property taxes, and as a result, impoverished school districts, libraries, fire departments, and other community services in many areas. Debate over the bill was so contentious at the time, and continues to be to this day, that to even approach the idea of repealing it is considered a political death sentence, so no representative has the will to do it.

    So to repeat my question: Are you really sure this is a good idea?

  • by Burz ( 138833 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @04:22PM (#40159813) Homepage Journal

    It is conceivable there would be many bills that do not have popular attention, but which are still critically important to a functioning society. Will you require a minimum number of votes on an issue before going against your own better judgement, or will any amount of citizen input suffice to direct you?

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