Henri Poole of Affero On Online Trust 55
Henri Poole writes "In the interview 'Trust Unlimited', Robert McMillan at LinuxPlanet asks Poole about the roots, current developments, and future of Affero's trust and commerce system. Poole talks about his work at the Well, Mandrakesoft's e-services initiative, and current work with LinuxQuestions, and covers topics of transportable reputations, gaming, profits, blogs, forums, independent media and the importance of independent perspectives and decentralized trust metrics in a democratic society."
What about the reverse (Score:2)
What about the reverse , can I get money , for my reputation?
Then I'll encash all my Karma before this post gets modded down and destroys it all.....
Re:What about the reverse (Score:3, Interesting)
So it's particularly useful for projects that need a small cash stream to keep going, and for developers that would like to do more Free Software work, but don't have the money/time to do so.
Isn't it a little weird? (Score:2, Interesting)
Does this make him a meta-karmawhore?
Re:Isn't it a little weird? (Score:2)
Wow, neat Idea. (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, how about we add this to Slashcode! This is moderation on a whole new level. Very cool idea.
Re:Wow, neat Idea. (Score:1, Interesting)
I just want my pr0n... uh.. I mean. My information.
How would this translate to getting a job (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:How would this translate to getting a job (Score:2)
Maybe in a few years time, when Affero is more established, some companies might take heed, but I doubt it
Re:How would this translate to getting a job (Score:2)
Yeah, I did that (Score:1, Insightful)
Sounds like a project I worked on a while back. Except mine automatically gave a negative rating to anyone that claimed to be able to objectively rate every Internet user on the planet.
Seriously though, who would pay any attention to something like this? Are there actually people out there that care if Joe from Texas gave them X for their "Internet rat
Re:Yeah, I did that (Score:2)
> every community that uses a publically
> displayed "experience points" type system
> slowly dies a redundant, boring death as people
> continually spit out the same useless advice as
> fast as possible to receive their precious
> points. It seems to attract the bottom of
> the barrel, perhaps because people who are
> truly interested in the discussion don't need
> the "incentive" and go to serious forums.
Oh no....you're so wrong. Henri's
But who will stop the Trolls? (Score:1, Interesting)
So what's to stop someone from assuming your identity and ruining your reputation? It seems this alone invalidates the system.
If you have found this comment useful... (Score:1)
Thank you, and god bless.
Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
Doesn't it seem a bit too generic? I mean he assumes that having a good reputation in one community should translate directly into a good reputation in another community, which is often not the case.
For example, does having excellent karma in slashdot qualify you to be an authority on the linux kernel mailing list? Taking a real world example, if you were popular among all your neo-nazi friend for your strong political convictions, and you suddenly moved to israel, would/should you enjoy the same good
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
Webs of trust are always transferrable between similar communities. I don't think Poole is pretending Affero is the ultimate Karma system.
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
To a point, but even in a case like this, being able to answer questions on linux does not mean you are good at gnome documentation. What if you are just an expert on setting up ntpd, and puke at the sight of a GUI? Whether you had a good rating or not, most open source communities will probably accept your he
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
Conversely, if I went and looked at his
Affero rating, and saw that he had
received some negative or
middle-of-the-road feedback, or that
compared to others on LinuxQuestions he
barely had any, I might be less inclined
to take him on.
And you think this is a _good_ thing?
Suppose someone gets a negative rating for reasons that are really stupid or that no longer apply. That kind of thing happens all the time and then, looking at the evidence N years down the road, it's impossib
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
the extreme and pointing out their
breaking points
I'm simply thinking through the implications of what happens if Affero succeeds on their current path. It's you times 100s or 1000s of others.
Of *course* I wouldn't judge somebody
exclusively on some bad karma they got
back in 1999,
Timing of "bad karma" isn't the primary issue. The unrecorded context is. Haven't you ever been in a situation where the group dynamic included people tr
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:1)
Re:Nice idea, but... (Score:2)
> Johnson?
I would say that that is question we should each ask of ourselves, and work towards in our lives. I would say that that answers are never simple, but the ideals not so hard to grasp. I would say that "The Place of Dead Roads" by William S Burroughs is, perhaps, his best work -- and certainly a milestone in American literature.
-t
Prototyped a UI for The WELL? (Score:1)
CEO for SALE (Score:2, Insightful)
Distributed Trust Models (Score:2)
The Solar Trust Model: Authentication without Limitation at:
http://www.acsac.org/1998/abstracts/fri-a-1030- c li fford.pdf
Networking in The Solar Trust Model:
Determining Optimal Trust Paths in a Decentralized Trust Network at http://www.acsac.org/2002/papers/9.pdf
From the second paper's abstract:
Re:Distributed Trust Models (Score:2)
No space in the word "clifford"
first paper [acsac.org]
second paper [acsac.org]
integration (Score:1)
I mean it's easy if you don't have to log on everywhere and it's great to be or feel appreciated for your
Yogi Berra, Anyone? (Score:1)
trust vs. databases (Score:2)
A database about "trust" or "reputation" based on voting is something comple
Funny thing about trust is... (Score:1)
Reputation and networking have many aspects (Score:2)
Another way of looking at it is simply the usual networking transaction that take place in the real world. Imagine that you are looking for a reliable contractor to renovate your house. There are a number of three-way transactions taking place between you, a friend you trust, and a contractor he
Re:Reputation and networking have many aspects (Score:2)
> usual networking transaction that take
> place in the real world. Imagine that you
> are looking for a reliable contractor to
> renovate your house. There are a number of
> three-way transactions taking place
> between you, a friend you trust, and a
> contractor he trusts well enough to
> recommend. The whole point of reputation
> and networking is to allow a certain
> amount of transitivity in trust
> relationships.
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